Afterlife with a serious imagination

[Paloma'sCastle]

Afterlife with a serious imagination

Do atheists believe in an afterlife or do they lack the imagination to do so?
After 8 year of studying atheists, I had no clue, some do. ‘Logic will get you from A to B, Imagination will take you everywhere and lots of people mistaken it for their memory. If atheist takes to the afterlife concept, it will grow beyond science? If atheist allows them selves to use more of their powerful sub-conscious, I’d be very impressed. An afterlife potential will grow atheist’s legs, and will sling shoot them pass 3% or 5% member to double or triple members on up to the level of the spiritual non religion groups such as Buddhism or Confucius. Richard Dawkins, most popular atheist says he is deeply religious like Einstein, and yet he draws anti paranormal and anti afterlife conclusions. I’m not anti anything, just not for harm and some odd other things. It suppresses an inflow of imagination, for me

My greatest upside is imagination and downside I’m sometimes a reckless Bohemian. The USA is the most powerful country in the world and they are made up of 75% Christian, it dose shows me they are governed by its imagination. Their downside of imagination, is hell, the most harmful concept that I can imagine.

‘Imagination is a poor substitute for experience and I can prove most everything I know was once only imagined. I’ve been a world class athlete in a few sports, world class artist in few areas of arts, and pioneered a few industries. Coach dozen of people in a wide variety of fields towards a world class standard. I've promoted many politicians to be elected winners (worldwide). If most of the atheist members can show me how they use imagination for your afterlife and practice it, without calling it stupid, BS, nonsense, foolish, delusional or insane.

I would support them with the most persuasive tool in human history. I will use my skills to promote atheist afterlife and atheist politicians to get a least on the ballot, as in most countries, they are not. It is truer said, we are governed by the weakness of our imaginations.’

What are your views on afterlife, when you have not experience it.
How is it possible for you to tell me the story about it, or for an atheist?

[Paloma'sCastle]

I have no idea what area of this forum, I am allowed to post in, without being scolded or canceled.
I think will cancel this forum because of a lack of freedom and understanding.

The Christain that told me this site is open minded, is he fooling me?

[kInGcOlD]

Open minded is not calling something stupid.

My views of the after life are INFLUENCED by other people's thoughts just like your OPINIONS are ALL influenced, friend.

The truth is we are all influenced some way by others, and there isn't a genuine bone in us.

The big answer about the afterlife that it exists with some deity is something that has been told for thousands of years.

The fact that so much effort from science has been generated into proving there is such a thing is very heavy on my conscience.

[Paloma'sCastle]

Open minded is not calling something stupid.

My views of the after life are INFLUENCED by other people's thoughts just like your OPINIONS are ALL influenced, friend.

The truth is we are all influenced some way by others, and there isn't a genuine bone in us.

The big answer about the afterlife that it exists with some deity is something that has been told for thousands of years.

The fact that so much effort from science has been generated into proving there is such a thing is very heavy on my conscience.

I did not saying anyone is stupid or putting down a whole being or person. I respect all groups and individuals and not against anyone. I can not say the same for many of the behaviors between atheists and Christians. I just asked if I can be fooled by one Christian about this forum being open minded.

The atheist forum, had many crump’s, yet, were open minded enough for most topics of conversation. With my brother who is a pastor, dose not allowed me to talk about dinosaurs, science, proven arts and cultures from 30,000 years ago. Or allow talk about G spots, masturbating unless I'm thinking about Jesus, in which is too gay for me and 93% of the male population and the huge list goes on.

If only 3% of Christian goes to church and my bother a spiritual leader and he can't answers many of his group, their questions. How can he saved the many from just living life on earth. If the upside is 144,000 sealed go the heaven and the downside is 100 billion souls who ever lived in history gooo… where, maybe most go to hell. I can think of many other better chances or ways to spend my afterlife.
What's the purpose in controlling people by fear rather than for love? Maybe for more members?.

[kInGcOlD]

Those are all very big and, I'm sure, interesting questions and statements, but I'm compelled to start with the small ones. The little things are often more important. You can't build a 50 story tower without a, pardon my french, bloody good foundation.

Who was Jesus?

If you can give a worthy response, you're not wasting your own time.

[Paloma'sCastle]

Those are all very big and, I'm sure, interesting questions and statements, but I'm compelled to start with the small ones. The little things are often more important. You can't build a 50 story tower without a, pardon my french, bloody good foundation.

Who was Jesus?

If you can give a worthy response, you're not wasting your own time.

I believe in God, not like the super nature old man in the sky. I believe there are many ways to God. Most the worlds people are not aware of Jesus or practicing repeating someone else’s name. I do feel mystic about Jesus as a beautiful man. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha were very intelligent and spiritual human being and were right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong. Many of these spiritual lending people evolved from the smartest person in the Cave. When people were dying from earth quarks, volcano’s storms and flood ‘The people have the right to know why. The source of genius is imagination alone.’ So the smartest man in the cave related to the moon, planets and stars, in which is true, we are all connected in one and one for all. Most Christian members fear the hell concept and it’s not good enough answer for me yet fear motivate greater than love. Bible’ Knowledge is limited, yet Imagination encircles the world. I could tell you who Jesus was unless I lived 2000 years ago, I can hardly tell about the many great people who are living today.. When 2000 version of the bible can not agree with other, how can the rest of us? If I do not accept Jesus as the one and only right way to God, I have offended them. That means most the world has offended Christians, so the rest of us are demonized and doom for hell. It creates an over ego World, not an open spirited one. Can't we all get along?

[Paloma'sCastle]

It is not my interest to debate or have arguments, or to down or be against anyone. Most of all, NOT to on a one-sided group, yet this forum is acting like I am or must be. I'm a fearless, loving and respect all people, if they are not strong enough to handle that. Then run with your fingers in their your ears or cancel me.

Here is a thought
Middle grounds between atheist and religionChristian upside is they run much of the world. They believe salvation is only way to Heaven or the downside is hell, wail most of the world’s population is not aware of Christ. The Atheists downside is their lack of imagination to run the world and science is their upside.

Christian forgives me for pointing out according to the word, only 144, 000 are sealed to go to heaven. That means maybe 100 billion souls who ever lived could be burning in hell. Jesus speaks far more about hell than about heaven? They want to take your immortal soul and Muslims go one step further, death to a Muslim, as you convert each one. I hope to share awareness with everyone to get along before war and toxic natural environment brings death to most of us. Or we can allow religions to keep running us further into an over ego world.
On the other extreme end of the poles is Richard Dawkins world’s most famous atheist claims he is a deeply religious atheist. He tours multi media into a verbal fight clubs with films like God Delusion, Root of all evil and Enemies of reason. It’s the context of the bigot not the words to be concern about. Albert Einstein is an example of a great person and who is middle grounds between God and science. Both Religion and Atheist want him in their camp and Hitler in the other. Or do you think my metaphors are grimmer than Grimm’s fairy tales?
It’s no wonder the majority of greatest and wisest people in history work the middle grounds of God. Can middle grounds exist or be possible between the two extreme poles of your soul? Personally, I think everyone and thing is God, no fighting recommended or required. You as an individual can choose middle grounds, to be a closer likeness to most of great people in history.

Would you choose middle grounds, to be more like great people and to more likely master life? Would that not increase your chances for the great unknown afterlife anyways?

[ChuckInSuburbia]

This thread seems to be going in a dozen different directions at the same time. If I am reading the OP right, your main question seems to be, "What kind of an afterlife do atheists believe in?" Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

The best answer to this question, unfortunately, is "It depends on the atheist". Atheism isn't a belief system, it is a lack of a specific belief (in gods). Since belief in an afterlife isn't contingent on a belief in god(s), the personal beliefs of atheists run the full spectrum. e.g. Buddhism is an atheistic belief system, since there is no all-powerful deity, yet they have their own beliefs about the life/death/rebirth cycle.

As for myself, I consider myself to be a "skeptical agnostic atheist", which basically means that although I don't personally believe in any supreme being, I admit that there is a chance, however small, that I am wrong, and I am open to any new evidence which might change my opinion. This belief generally applies to all "extraordinary" or "supernatural" claims, whether religious in nature, or about new-age beliefs, UFO's, faeries, etc.

My personal belief regarding an afterlife, or the persistence of an individual after the death of the physical body, is that, based on the evidence I have seen, the proposition of an afterlife does not seem to be supported. Based upon our best current understanding, a mind/ego is a product of a physical brain, and cannot continue when the brain ceases to function. New evidence may change this, but I believe that evidence to support a "soul" or soul-like entity will probably not be forthcoming, based on the pattern of evidence from the past.

[KingsGambit]

Christian forgives me for pointing out according to the word, only 144, 000 are sealed to go to heaven. That means maybe 100 billion souls who ever lived could be burning in hell. Jesus speaks far more about hell than about heaven? They want to take your immortal soul and Muslims go one step further, death to a Muslim, as you convert each one.

Not to distract from your broader case, but here, I would argue that you're taking a highly symbolic book far too literally. With the exception of some Jehovah's Witnesses, I don't think anybody really takes that to mean "144,000 people are going to heaven".