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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Shaver View Post
    According to the quotation, Lewis was talking about any belief. Most beliefs don't come with a stipulation that the belief doesn't count unless you're willing to be martyred for it.

    If someone credibly threatens to kill me unless I deny evolution, I will deny evolution without a second thought, but my doing so won't make me a creationist.
    You make a good point.
    Some people are willing to die for their belief but many would not, true.
    So it borders on impossible then to imagine that some would die for what they know is a flat out lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Shaver View Post
    According to the quotation, Lewis was talking about any belief. Most beliefs don't come with a stipulation that the belief doesn't count unless you're willing to be martyred for it.

    If someone credibly threatens to kill me unless I deny evolution, I will deny evolution without a second thought, but my doing so won't make me a creationist.
    You may be right within the context of evolution. There is no such option in Christ - He made it clear that if a believer denies him, Christ will deny that believer as well. This is clear in more than one place in the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jude View Post
    So it borders on impossible then to imagine that some would die for what they know is a flat out lie.
    My imagination can handle it. Whether it has ever actually happened, I have no knowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertBerean View Post
    You may be right within the context of evolution. There is no such option in Christ - He made it clear that if a believer denies him, Christ will deny that believer as well. This is clear in more than one place in the Bible.
    That is why I mentioned the stipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Shaver View Post
    That is why I mentioned the stipulation.
    There is this creed which comes to mind:
    2 Timothy 2:11-13, 14,
    [It is] a faithful saying: For if we be dead with [him], we shall also live with [him]: If we suffer, we shall also reign with [him]: if we deny [him], he also will deny us: If we believe not, [yet] he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

    Of these things put [them] in remembrance, charging [them] before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, [but] to the subverting of the hearers.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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