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    US considering charging Assange

    Sources: US prepares charges to seek arrest of WikiLeaks' Julian Assange

    Washington (CNN)US authorities have prepared charges to seek the arrest of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, US officials familiar with the matter tell CNN.
    The Justice Department investigation of Assange and WikiLeaks dates to at least 2010, when the site first gained wide attention for posting thousands of files stolen by the former US Army intelligence analyst now known as Chelsea Manning.
    Prosecutors have struggled with whether the First Amendment precluded the prosecution of Assange, but now believe they have found a way to move forward.
    During President Barack Obama's administration, Attorney General Eric Holder and officials at the Justice Department determined it would be difficult to bring charges against Assange because WikiLeaks wasn't alone in publishing documents stolen by Manning. Several newspapers, including The New York Times, did as well. The investigation continued, but any possible charges were put on hold, according to US officials involved in the process then.

    Going after Assange
    The US view of WikiLeaks and Assange began to change after investigators found what they believe was proof that WikiLeaks played an active role in helping Edward Snowden, a former NSA analyst, disclose a massive cache of classified documents.

    Last week in a speech at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, CIA Director Mike Pompeo went further than any US government official in describing a role by WikiLeaks that went beyond First Amendment activity.
    He said WikiLeaks "directed Chelsea Manning to intercept specific secret information, and it overwhelmingly focuses on the United States."
    "It's time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is: A non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia," Pompeo said.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/politi...ges/index.html

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    Normally I would ignore the anonymous sources story, but they do mention a direct quote by Mike Pompeo that seems to confirm it.

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    Since Assange is an Australian citizen currently residing in an Ecuadorean embassy in the UK, and AFAIK none of the activities referred to occurred while Assange was in the US, under what jurisdiction are they going to bring charges?
    Mountain Man destroys his own argument:
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    "...there are historical points on which the Bible can't be tested for one reason or another, for instance, cases where the data is incomplete, such as the Lukan census which has a number of plausible solutions but is, at worst, untestable due to a lack of conclusive evidence."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    Since Assange is an Australian citizen currently residing in an Ecuadorean embassy in the UK, and AFAIK none of the activities referred to occurred while Assange was in the US, under what jurisdiction are they going to bring charges?
    Got me. Espionage? If he directed Snowden to get specific secrets, then that makes him a spy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Got me. Espionage? If he directed Snowden to get specific secrets, then that makes him a spy.
    That seems highly unlikely, and even if true I can't see how Assange could possibly be charged by a US court since he's not from the US and wasn't in the US at the time.

    Are the US authorities also planning to arrest Igor Korobov for being director of the GRU?
    Mountain Man destroys his own argument:
    "[Glenn Miller's essay] has more than enough facts and data to support the conclusion that Luke's history was bang-on accurate with regards to who conducted the census and when."
    "...there are historical points on which the Bible can't be tested for one reason or another, for instance, cases where the data is incomplete, such as the Lukan census which has a number of plausible solutions but is, at worst, untestable due to a lack of conclusive evidence."

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    Does it really matter? If they ever manage to get their hands on him and bring him to the US, he's pretty much screwed.
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    Than a fool in the eyes of God


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    That seems highly unlikely, and even if true I can't see how Assange could possibly be charged by a US court since he's not from the US and wasn't in the US at the time.

    Are the US authorities also planning to arrest Igor Korobov for being director of the GRU?
    I would think they would have to have Equator hand him over. How they would do that I have no idea. Or I guess they could send in a raid like they did for Osama Bin Laden. storm the embassy and take him prisoner. They did it in Panama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I would think they would have to have Equator hand him over. How they would do that I have no idea. Or I guess they could send in a raid like they did for Osama Bin Laden. storm the embassy and take him prisoner. They did it in Panama.
    Call in Cinnamon and Barney...
    Mountain Man destroys his own argument:
    "[Glenn Miller's essay] has more than enough facts and data to support the conclusion that Luke's history was bang-on accurate with regards to who conducted the census and when."
    "...there are historical points on which the Bible can't be tested for one reason or another, for instance, cases where the data is incomplete, such as the Lukan census which has a number of plausible solutions but is, at worst, untestable due to a lack of conclusive evidence."

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    As well Assange should be charged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catholicity View Post
    As well Assange should be charged.
    This is probably something both sides can agree on. Both sides have used wikileaks in the past, and both have been hurt by it too. From a strictly national standpoint, I think he and wikileaks are very dangerous to national security. Sure, nobody wants to be lied to by their government and we get a perverse pleasure in seeing the mighty get knocked down a peg or two, but some of that information is classified for a reason and should remain that way.

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