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Life in Prison For Child Molesters?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by seer View Post
    If you put a child molester in prison for life he will never rape a child again.
    If you put everyone in prison, they'd be no crime at all! What a wonderful solution! /sarcasm

    Putting people in prison costs a lot of taxpayer money. It's cheaper to send someone to the best university for a year than to send them to prison for a year. And not merely is there the expense of the prison cost, there is the loss of tax revenue that would have come if the prisoner were to have been out in the work force earning a living and paying taxes. Getting 'tough on crime' with longer prison sentences (that have been scientifically shown to not be a good psychological deterrent to criminals) is massively fiscally irresponsible. Giving people free college or housing assistance or massive handouts to the poor is cheap by comparison.

    Since crime has been dropping across the board for decades, I would anticipate that child abuse rates have been dropping too, and what data I can find on the subject seems to support that:


    Here in NZ there's actually recently been legislation passed to allow the indefinite detention of a child molester who was judged as certain to re-offend if allowed to go free (IIRC he had a history of serial offending, and said he didn't regret his actions and intended to do it again).
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      I would agree that anyone who literally raped a child deserves the death penalty or life imprisonment, perhaps with early parole, if they voluntarily submit for chemical castration (with follow-up checks).
      Well I am speaking of rape or on going molesting. I have a friend who was molested by an adult male in his family from 8-15 years old. It wasn't a violent situation, more coercion. Ronny's life went down hill, ended up as a male prostitute for years. The adult was named Andy - yes I would put Andy in prison for life.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by seer View Post
        Well I am speaking of rape or on going molesting. I have a friend who was molested by an adult male in his family from 8-15 years old. It wasn't a violent situation, more coercion. Ronny's life went down hill, ended up as a male prostitute for years. The adult was named Andy - yes I would put Andy in prison for life.
        As a matter of what punishment you think fits the crime, it's an opinion I respect. I have some disagreements because my mind is cluttered with nuances. But I respect your view. You care about justice seer.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
          As a matter of what punishment you think fits the crime, it's an opinion I respect. I have some disagreements because my mind is cluttered with nuances. But I respect your view. You care about justice seer.
          As does God...
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #20
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            As does God...
            Your point being?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              Your point being?
              That we all should care about justice...
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #22
                Originally posted by seer View Post
                That we all should care about justice...
                Ah, I was confused by the ellipsis at the end (the '...') which makes your statement come off a bit cold, and I wondered if you meant anything beyond the obvious with it.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                  Ah, I was confused by the ellipsis at the end (the '...') which makes your statement come off a bit cold, and I wondered if you meant anything beyond the obvious with it.
                  Well you know me with the ellipsis thing...
                  Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by seer View Post
                    Well you know me with the ellipsis thing...
                    Yup, it just confuses me at times. ^,..,^

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                      Yup, it just confuses me at times. ^,..,^
                      Yes, you have called me on it more than once... (oops, did it again!) ; )
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                        We have a different word for this category for this over here: sædelighedsforbrydelse.
                        Great for ScrabbleTM! If only it would fit on the board...
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          there is the loss of tax revenue that would have come if the prisoner were to have been out in the work force earning a living and paying taxes.



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