Split from Alma 30 and the Law

[jo7241974]

Did the Jews ever kick people out who didn't adhere to the LoM, or did the just summarily execute them all.

Hi OC,

In the OT we have seen many instances where God's anger was incurred. Often He instructed His children that they needed to carry out the punishment He declared against those He was angry with. The punishment was the destruction of the offenders. Sometimes the offenders were people who were not among the children of Israel, and sometimes the offenders were among the children of Israel. Their physical lives were destroyed - they were killed off. Since they died before Christ had come in the flesh, their death would have been judged by the Law. Those who were Jewish would, therefore, have died WITH the knowledge of the Law. Those who were not Jewish would have died without the Law.

Jesus died for ALL the sins of the world; not just for those who died after His Resurrection. I think many need to reconsider the effect of what God's destruction of these people had on their souls; even such as lived in Sodom and Gomorrah. These people were all destroyed before Christ's Resurrection; yet Jesus paid the price of their sins as well, AFTER they were already physically dead. WHY would Jesus suffer their sins as well if, since they were were already dead and had been destroyed according to God's instructions, they could not be saved? I think this is actually a good indication that we are being taught that it is NOT just in the physical body we have the opportunity to be saved.

If Christians DO believe that these people were saved posthumously, then why can't people be saved poshumously today? If they think the people of Sodom and Gomorrah are saveable (keeping in mind Christ paid their debt as well thousands of years after they had been destroyed), then why not those who commit similar sins today whether in this life (in or out of the church) or after physical death (in or out of the church)?

Matthew 10:14-15
14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment, than for that city.

I would say that God's judgment to destroy the flesh is NOT the same as His final judgment of their soul, as it appears Sodom and Gomorrah have not yet received their eternal judgment.

God bless,

jo

[Cow Poke]

If Christians DO believe that these people were saved posthumously

Are you making that claim? Are you thinking that ALL people from the OT were "saved" posthumously?

Or those who "believed God", like Abraham....

Scripture Verse:

Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. 4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. 6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, 7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. 8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

then why can't people be saved poshumously today?

We have the gospel - OT people did not.

If they think the people of Sodom and Gomorrah are saveable (keeping in mind Christ paid their debt as well thousands of years after they had been destroyed), then why not those who commit similar sins today whether in this life (in or out of the church) or after physical death (in or out of the church)?

Did they believe God, or have "faith" which was counted for righteousness?

[Sparko]

Please stick to the topic.

[rogue06]

Please stick to the topic.

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