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December 16th 2010, 03:06 AM #1
When do our nervous systems start functioning?
It seems to me that, since you're dead right when it stops, you must be alive right when it starts...does anyone know exactly when your brain starts functioning?
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December 16th 2010, 12:19 PM #2
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
Around week 3 of gestation, the brain, heart and spinal cord start to develop. I know this from when we found out my wife was pregnant, I got weekly e-mails from a resource I subscribed to. I'll dig up the reference if needed.
That being said, it is my stance that the little bundle of cells created upon conception was a life named Kieran, regardless of whether or not his brain had started developing.There's an interesting psychology regarding the impetus behind which we find ourselves urged... nay, compelled, to read someone's entire signature.
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December 16th 2010, 05:34 PM #3
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
Alcoth has it right. Life is not a matter of brain function. Life is a matter of cell function.
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8)
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December 17th 2010, 12:49 AM #4
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
True, though I wonder if, because of when the nervous system starts, we could reach some sort of compromise with the pro-choicers that you've got three weeks to get an abortion instead of three months...
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December 17th 2010, 10:38 AM #5
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
If I compromise then I'm conceding that my son was not alive prior to three weeks of gestation (5 weeks after impregnation). Not gonna happen.
ETA : Oh and logically following the above, condone murder!Last edited by Alcoth; December 17th 2010 at 10:43 AM.
There's an interesting psychology regarding the impetus behind which we find ourselves urged... nay, compelled, to read someone's entire signature.
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December 17th 2010, 10:49 AM #6
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
I understood that there is measurable brain wave activity before birth like that which would be flatlined, indicating brain death/clinical death, after birth, at three months of age for a fetal person.
That's what I've read.
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In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion." (Pastor Greg Boyd.)
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December 17th 2010, 06:34 PM #7
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8)
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December 17th 2010, 06:38 PM #8
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
I'm not saying its the best solution, but it might be a good step to getting it banned all together
And where did you read that exactly, Gharfish?
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December 18th 2010, 12:48 AM #9
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
Abortion will never be banned stepwise. As long as it is seen a acceptable there will be few, if any, limits acceptable.
He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God. (Micah 6:8)
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December 21st 2010, 03:46 PM #10
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
I cannot find my source, unfortunately, but here is one that looks good;
www.c2g.ca/development.html
There it says that brain waves can be *measured at 8 weeks. The fetal person is half an inch long (tall!)
Here are the telltale signs of life in the two organs that if in a born person they ceased to function that person would be declared dead: the heart stops, irreversibly, and a fully developed (normal) brain is flatlined.
The heart is almost completely developed at 10 weeks, and the brain is fully developed at 12 weeks. That person is completely alive; no doubt. By the 14th week, the fetal human being is moving about.
Here are some pictures that show, first, 12 weeks, and then 14:
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In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion." (Pastor Greg Boyd.)
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January 13th 2011, 04:17 PM #11
Re: When do our nervous systems start functioning?
It is my understanding about the 17th day from conception the zygote has his/her own blood, and with the next day the nervous system begins.
In the word of God blood is associated with the soul in the body. (see Lev. 17:11.)Truth originates with God.
Belief originates with truth.
Reason is based in one's beliefs.
"There is no wisdom nor understanding nor counsel against the Self Existent Existence." -- Proverbs 21:30.
"For in him we live, and move, and have our being; . . . " -- The Apostle Paul - Acts 17:28.
". . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . ." -- Romans 1:16.
". . . the gospel . . . how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . " -- 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. " -- John 3:16.
". . . as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the children of God, even to them that believe on his name: Who were born, not . . . of the will of man, but of God." -- John 1:12, 13.
"Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . ." -- 1 John 5:1.
". . . and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. " -- Hebrews 8:12.
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