December 21st 2010, 03:56 AM #1
Canadian Anthem too Offensive for some.. Arguement
I thought I share a pretty core fundemental Canadian Issue : The singing of our national anthem.
news article of an example of this happening in Canada : http://www.cbc.ca/canada/new-brunswi...-o-canada.html
A pretty in depth arguement took place between a friend and I, on various religious groups being offended by the Canadian National Anthem, specifically muslims. Jeremy did not appreciate Alex view on the Canadian Anthem Defense. Alex said, "If they do not wish to sing our anthem, then they can go the hell home". another version was "They can leave my country" after showing a little more grace, being convinced later by Jeremy that Sending them Home was a bit too harsh. Instead Alex implied "They can leave" - basically inferring, if, that there that offended 1.) why are they here ? 2.) why should we be a place of refuge - when they dont have the decency to sing an anthem in thanks to the soldiers who shed their blood so we can live in a free country. Jeremy's strongest remarks were in defense of - what would Jesus do if he were here on Earth now. He would show grace accordingly, and would not deport people for not complying to the morning anthem being played in schools.
Jeremy however, attacked by the much looser approach on "They can leave MY Country !" - quote - by simply reminding Alex he does not physically own the country. But if you look into scripture, time and time again : The old testiment figures such as Elijah or Joshua, and even Moses - would not be afraid to say "My God." This is not in context that we OWN God, but we are claiming him as our own, welcoming him into our life and being strongly apart of our life. He is not our property, but He is our Personal Lord, Just like Canada is My personal home. Jeremy says, "Not the right approach." They can stay as long as they pay their taxes. Show them grace like Jesus did when he lived in our Earth.
My Question is : Should we show grace to those who do not wish to sing our anthem at all because of being offended by God being used in it, or should they learn to adapt to our ways because there are specific reasons to why God was put in place by the Canadian Constitution ?
Alex reminded Jeremy that Every Knee will bow and every tongue will Confess Jesus Christ is Lord. Muslims, Siqs, Jews, Gentiles, Jehovahs Witness, Catholic, Hindi, Chinese Athiests, Buddhists, and many other Religions and All of mankind will be forcibly made to bow the knee to the everlasting lord. They will not have the option to snub it, or turn their nose up at it. They will not be allowed to request to not performing this action or to not utter it. When people do not sing the anthem because of God being placed into the anthem on the line "God keep our Land" - That is wrong. Maybe Alex's approach was harsh yes, to send them home, or deport them for not singing it. Jeremy reminded Alex about the fiery furnace and how the 3 brothers did not worship the false god or idol by Neb and as a result were thrown into the furnace.
Excellent point, but Alex found it not applicable. We as Christians know better that we serve a Living God, a much more powerful God - and we should not justify by using the example : that if a muslim is offended, because in their religion : God tells them it is herecy to sing the canadian anthem. We know our God is much different than all other Gods. And he shall not be mocked. Alex is not making people bow down to our countries flag or worship a Canadian Leader like King Neb did. Perhaps in the minds of a serious muslim they could see themselves in a persecuted situation like the 3 brothers in the furnace - if Canada took the action against them for not singing the anthem. But Alex does not see the unhealthy coorelation of what is spoken of in daniel to his point of deporting them for not obeying if it were implemented.
1.) It is not Canadas right to take anyone into our Country, but a privilege that they are accepted into a free country - especially a refuge should be all the more thankful to be here.
2.) No where in the Anthem does it say " It is required to Worship the Christian God."
I believe strongly that disregarding the Canadian Anthem to be wrong. And on offense to Canada as a whole.Just like when those who forsook Jesus Christ. Should mercy be shown ? - of course, but mercy is not guaranteed. And ultimately these people will answer to the Lord for rejecting him, when he shed his precious blood for each and every one of us, just like our canadian soldiers did for the country of Canada. Jesus probably would not deport those people for not singing them Anthem, but worse God will let them choose their destiny giving us free will to the end and those people wil be cast into the lake of fire for not accepting the true and living God. God, especially his Son has been rejected long enough, Im going to defend that, and I believe Im allowed to have an opinion, "If they don't appreciate our Anthem they can leave !" - just like the muslims or jehovas witness are allowed to be offended by the anthem and not sing it if they wish.
Important Views :
Jeremy's Views : Allow people who are offended by the Anthem, not to participate in singing it, show them grace, mercy, be most like Christ as he was, before he died. Let them force it not to be played in schools. Because Canada is a graceful nation.
Alex's Views : Jesus will not Allow this if he were to rule this Earth when the Millennial Kingdom is established, He will Make Every Knee Bow and Every Tongue Confess - He is Lord.
Thoughts or Opinions on the Matter Appreciated.
Last edited by acjames57; December 21st 2010 at 04:12 AM. Reason: Grammar and Details
December 21st 2010, 12:05 PM #2
Re: Canadian Anthem too Offensive for some.. Arguement
It's not just Muslims who are "offended" by "O, Canada". Feminists and other such pc-proponents are upset by the line "in all thy sons command". And atheists are also upset by the usage of the word "God" in the hymn.
I am of the mind that we will soon be facing changes to the anthem, as whichever government is in power tends to bow to the will of the those who make the most noise about anything.
At which time, I will avail myself of my "Constitutional" right to not sing the anthem. Until they start arresting people for that. And then I will likely be in prison.
Securely anchored to the Rock against every storm of trial, testing and tribulation.
December 21st 2010, 12:14 PM #3
Re: Canadian Anthem too Offensive for some.. Arguement
Freedom includes the right not to participate in patriotic activities. On the other hand, a country's days are numbered if its citizens on the whole abandon patriotism.
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