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Originally posted by seer View PostAnd what makes you think that democracies will be any better going forward with all the competing factions?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by seer View PostThat is a lie Roy, I did not misrepresent what Tass claimed in this thread.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by seer, earlierBut can you have as much cohesion? Historical frequency of revolutions and civil wars suggest otherwise.Originally posted by seer View PostBy studying history, which you obviously haven't since you don't know about the various revolts and revolutions that have disrupted Chinese society over the centuries.So has Cuba and North Korea. Islamic countries too are relatively cohesive without human rights.
What are you comparing Islamic countries' cohesiveness to? 1944 Germany? Mad Max? The Mote?
Have fun in your delusional world.Last edited by Roy; 05-25-2017, 06:44 AM.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
For as long s there are large sections of the populace deprived of their civil rights there will be discontent and the likelihood of revolution at the first opportunity. In short, there are better ways to maintain social cohesion than enforcing it via totalitarian rule.
Are you suggesting that the "godless left" are not entitled to full equal rights, on what basis do you discriminate against them?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Roy View PostSo you're using China's stability over less than fifty years as support for totalitarian societies having stability for centuries.
Islamic countries are relatively cohesive????? Did you miss the Arab spring? Or the ongoing issues with ISIS? How about the overthrowing of the Taliban, Saddam Hussein's assaults on Kurds, the Iran-Iraq war, the Somali war, the Sudanese civil war and the Kosovo war?
What are you comparing Islamic countries' cohesiveness to? 1944 Germany? Mad Max? The Mote?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostHmm, good point. Guess we should burn all the churches / mosques / temples / whatnot. Better to have no competing factions, right?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Roy View PostIt's not a lie. You misrepresented what you claimed in this thread, as shown above. Post reported.
I said: But you have zero evidence that rape would undermine social cohesion, so you have no rational argument against rape. Except that the idea gives you a bad feeling in your tummy... And the fact that when we speak of things like homosexuality you like to point back to our primate cousins claiming that it is a natural behavior.
Tass: ALL anti-social behaviour undermines the social values to preserve social cohesion and is therefore proscribed.Last edited by seer; 05-25-2017, 07:00 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostBut that isn't a fact Tass, totalitarian regimes have often lasted for centuries pretty much intact.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Bill the Cat View PostAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Roy View PostSince your chief example of a long-lasting intact totalitarian regime has been decimated three times by massively destructive civil wars since 1850, and your subsidiary examples have mostly suffered violent revolutions in the last few decades, nothing you say on this topic (or any other) should be believed.
And as I made clear civil wars often lead to less freedom not more.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostI have no idea what you mean? Are you denying that there are stable Muslim countries?Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Roy View PostNo, I'm denying that "Islamic countries are relatively cohesive", a claim so ridiculous that you retreated from it fast enough to cause redshift.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostGood, and that is my point, there are Muslim countries that are relatively cohesive with little consideration of human rights. I did not say that all Muslim countries were cohesive you pedantic ass...
So it's not wrong to say that e.g. 'swans are black', because a few of them are. It's not wrong to claim that 'bananas are pink' if you spray-painted a few bunches.
And when you wrote "primates are socially cohesive even with rape", you might have been referring only to a few exceptions and ignoring the majority - which skewers your argument completely.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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