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[Adrift]

I seem to recall one of the nutty conservatives on this site was arguing that lesbian women were immensely promiscuous. Can't remember if it was you, MM, or Adrift. It seems like you guys can't even agree among yourselves on a day to day basis as to which particular false claims you want to smear gay people with. Sad!

I never made any such argument, and I can't remember Mountain Man ever making that argument either. Seems you can't remember what arguments people make on this forum, and the fictions you pull from your behind.

[Darth Executor]

I never made any such argument, and I can't remember Mountain Man ever making that argument either. Seems you can't remember what arguments people make on this forum, and the fictions you pull from your behind.

I've made the opposite argument, so that's 0/3

[Tassman]

Thanks for confirming what I said about you.

You can't help it can you?

You can remain as smug as you like. But, apart from coming up with an improbable list of imaginary "miracles" (as though that was an argument), you have not shown that there's a logically coherent alternative to materialism. So why should I take you seriously?

[Sparko]

all I did was show that you are so closed-minded that it was not discussing any evidence with you, since you would reject God himself appearing to you.

[Tassman]

all I did was show that you are so closed-minded that it was not discussing any evidence with you, since you would reject God himself appearing to you.

No,all you did was provide a list of imaginary miracles (such as god appearing before me), as though that was an argument. It's not. Hypothetical scenarios are not substantive evidence. One can do the same with any fanciful entities. Humans have been creating imaginary divinities for millennia.

[Jedidiah]

No,all you did was provide a list of imaginary miracles (such as god appearing before me), as though that was an argument. It's not. Hypothetical scenarios are not substantive evidence. One can do the same with any fanciful entities. Humans have been creating imaginary divinities for millennia.

Reading comprehension?

[Tassman]

Reading comprehension?

Well argued!

[Sparko]

No,all you did was provide a list of imaginary miracles (such as god appearing before me), as though that was an argument. It's not. Hypothetical scenarios are not substantive evidence. One can do the same with any fanciful entities. Humans have been creating imaginary divinities for millennia.

You seem to have trouble understanding hypotheticals. Not surprising at all.

It was not evidence. It was "what level of evidence would it take for Tassman to overcome his innate skepticism?" You kept demanding evidence, so I wanted to see if any form of evidence would be sufficient. I offered a scenario with overwhelming proof (God talking to you directly and bringing back someone of your choosing back to life and it being verified by other people) and not even that was good enough, even hypothetically.

So you if are so close-minded that even God himself cannot convince you, then your constant request for "evidence" is a sham. You won't accept anything presented. You are wasting our time.

[Tassman]

You seem to have trouble understanding hypotheticals. Not surprising at all.

It was not evidence. It was "what level of evidence would it take for Tassman to overcome his innate skepticism?" You kept demanding evidence, so I wanted to see if any form of evidence would be sufficient.

[tabibito]

Last time I looked, the hypothesised multi-verse could adequately provide the possibility.

[JonathanL]

You're the one who has the burden to prove that a supernatural realm is logically incoherent, not the other way around.

[Sparko]

and I even gave you that in the hypothetical. Verifiable evidence that God brought back a loved one of your choosing and you still said you would not believe.

Just admit it Tassman, you would not believe in God no matter what the evidence. You could not even give me an EXAMPLE of what the evidence would need to be to convince you.

[oxmixmudd]

And even if you had that - what would you do with it? Suppose you had all that - how would you approach what comes next. Would you try to go about your life ignoring this God/gods, would you try to connect with it somehow. If you could figure out how to communicate with the God you proved exists, or this realm you showed was real - would you? Would you be afraid of it? After all, what guarantees are there that this realm you found out existed is benevolent? Indeed, we have a lot of sci-fi literature and stories where the 'alternative' universe that prompts people to believe in God/gods turns out to be quite like our own - and quite dangerous to our survival.

Of course - right now you live on the side where there is no scientific objective proof and you just think it's all hooey. But I'm curious what you think you'd do if you could in fact cross that bridge and find out what you think is all hooey is in fact at least to some extent real.

Jim

[Tassman]

and I even gave you that in the hypothetical. Verifiable evidence that God brought back a loved one of your choosing and you still said you would not believe.

reallyreally

Just admit it Tassman, you would not believe in God no matter what the evidence. You could not even give me an EXAMPLE of what the evidence would need to be to convince you.

Poor Sparko, ever determined to blame me for not believing in your supernatural crap, when the actual reason is that there is no verifiable evidence for believing in it. Over the centuries, every phenomenon of initially "supernatural" mysteriousness has succumbed to an uncontroversial explanation within the field of physical science. And there is little doubt that all of your fanciful scenarios would also have a natural explanation..

[Tassman]

And even if you had that - what would you do with it? Suppose you had all that - how would you approach what comes next.

Would you try to go about your life ignoring this God/gods, would you try to connect with it somehow. If you could figure out how to communicate with the God you proved exists, or this realm you showed was real - would you? Would you be afraid of it? After all, what guarantees are there that this realm you found out existed is benevolent? Indeed, we have a lot of sci-fi literature and stories where the 'alternative' universe that prompts people to believe in God/gods turns out to be quite like our own - and quite dangerous to our survival.

See above.

Of course - right now you live on the side where there is no scientific objective proof and you just think it's all hooey. But I'm curious what you think you'd do if you could in fact cross that bridge and find out what you think is all hooey is in fact at least to some extent real. Jim

Exactly!