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      Koranic Heaven...

      This is a study dedicated to revealing exactly how the authors of the Koran used the Biblical Book of Revelation to construct the Koranic Paradise.

      In this study, we will discover that paraphrased Book of Revelation Heaven material is strewn across the pages of the Koran and exactly mirrors the description contained in the Holy Bible. These paraphrased Koranic remnants, of the original, have been collected into one place for critical examination and reconstruction.

      The most profound result of this study is the fact that the Koranic Paradise is built upon, and is reserved for, the followers of Jesus Christ. This is readily apparent from the construction of Heaven as it contains twelve foundations built upon Jesus’ twelve disciples; with twelve gates of entrance based upon the twelve tribes of Israel.

      All this, completely lost to ignorance in what is now known as Islam…




      1) Will there be a New Creation?
      Revelation: yes (3.12, 21.1-2, 21.5)
      Koran: yes (10.4, 10.34, 14.19, 17.49-51, 17.98, 21.104, 27.64, 29.19, 30.11, 30.27, 32.10, 34.7, 35.16, 50.15, 71.17-18)

      2) Will the New Creation consist of a New Heavens and a New Earth?
      Revelation: yes (21.1-2, 21.5)
      Koran: yes (14.48, 17.99, 21.104, 27.64, 29.19, 30.11, 30.27, 71.17-18)

      3) Will the Old Heavens and the Old Earth pass away?
      Revelation: yes (21.1)
      Koran: yes (81.11)

      4) Will there be a City?
      Revelation: yes (3.12, 11.2, 14.2, 20.9, 21.2, 21.10, 21.14 – 16, 21.18 – 19, 21.21, 21.23, 22.14, 22.19)
      Koran: yes (90.1 - 2)

      5) Does the City descend?
      Revelation: yes (3.12; 21.2, 21.10)
      Koran: yes (90.1 – 2, 26.90, 50.31, 53.13, 67.27, 81.13)

      6) Is someone descending with the City?
      Revelation: yes (3.21, 14.1)
      Koran: yes (90.1 - 2)

      7) Does the City involve a father and offspring?
      Revelation: yes (3.21, 14.1)
      Koran: yes (90.3)

      8) What is the shape of the City?
      Revelation: cube (21.16)
      Koran: cube (5.95, 5.97)

      9) What is it made of?
      Revelation: gold (21.18 - 21)
      Koran: gold (17.92 - 93)

      10) Is the foundation made of precious stones?
      Revelation: yes (21.19 - 20)
      Koran: yes (56.15)

      11) Are these precious stones various colors?
      Revelation: yes (21.19 - 20)
      Koran: yes (81.13)

      12) Made of chrysolyte?
      Revelation: yes (21.19 - 20)
      Koran: yes (24.35, 55.58, 81.13)

      13) What is surrounding the City?
      Revelation: wall (21.12 - 19)
      Koran: wall (7.44-49, 53.15, 57.12 -13)

      14) Is the wall high?
      Revelation: yes (21.12 - 19)
      Koran: yes (7.44-49)

      15) Is the wall green?
      Revelation: yes (21.11, 21.18)
      Koran: yes (81.13)

      16) How do you enter the City?
      Revelation: gates (21.12-13, 22.14)
      Koran: gates (13.22-24, 21.101-103, 38.50, 39.73, 43.34, 57.12-13)

      17) How many gates are there?
      Revelation: twelve (21.10 - 13)
      Koran: twelve (85.1)

      18) Are the gates open?
      Revelation: yes (21.25)
      Koran: yes (38.50, 39.73, 76.19)

      19) What do the gates look like?
      Revelation: pearls (21.21)
      Koran: pearls (22.23, 35.33, 52.24, 55.22, 55.58, 56.22 -23, 76.19)

      20) Do the gates have names on them?
      Revelation: yes (21.12)
      Koran: yes (85.1)

      21) Are the gates sons?
      Revelation: yes (21.12)
      Koran: yes (52.24, 76.19)

      22) Are the gates guarded?
      Revelation: yes (21.12)
      Koran: yes (13.22-24, 21.101-103, 39.73, 52.24, 56.22 -23)

      23) Who is guarding the gates?
      Revelation: angels (21.12)
      Koran: angels (13.22-24, 21.101-103, 39.73)

      24) How many are allowed to enter through the gates?
      Revelation: 144,000 (7.4 – 8, 14.1 - 3)
      Koran: thousands (106.1)

      25) Are these the ones sealed?
      Revelation: yes (7.4 – 8, 14.1 - 3)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      26) Are these the victorious?
      Revelation: yes (3.21, 12.11, 21.7)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      27) How did they become victorious?
      Revelation: by the blood of the sacrificial Lamb (1.5, 5.9, 7.14, 12.11)
      Koran: by the sacrifice for humanity (108.2)

      28) Are the victorious descended from a tribe of Abraham?
      Revelation: yes (7.4 – 8)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      29) Are the victorious drawn to a singular praised male?
      Revelation: yes (2.7, 7.13 – 17, 21.6 – 7, 22.1-4)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      30) Are the victorious sheltered from thirst?
      Revelation: yes (7.13 - 17)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      31) Are the victorious sheltered from hunger?
      Revelation: yes (7.13 - 17)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      32) Does their Lord feed them?
      Revelation: yes (2.7, 7.16 - 17)
      Koran: yes (106.4)

      33) Are the victorious sheltered from heat?
      Revelation: yes (7.13 - 17)
      Koran: yes (106.1)

      34) Does their Lord free them of fear?
      Revelation: yes (7.16 - 17)
      Koran: yes (106.4)

      35) Who is the Lord that does all this for them?
      Revelation: The Lamb (2.7, 7.16 – 17, 21.6 - 7)
      Koran: The Lord (106.3 - 4)

      36) Do the victorious worship their Lord in the cube?
      Revelation: yes (22.3)
      Koran: yes (106.3)

      37) Is the Lord that that they worship a slain sacrifice for humanity?
      Revelation: yes (5.6, 5.8 – 9, 5.12)
      Koran: yes (108.2)

      38) Does Paradise contain the Tree of life?
      Revelation: yes (2.7, 22.2, 22.14)
      Koran: yes (53.14, 83.19)

      39) Does the Tree of Life grow on both sides of the river bank?
      Revelation: yes (22.2)
      Koran: yes (53.14)

      40) Are the leaves of the Tree used for healing?
      Revelation: yes (22.2)
      Koran: yes (53.14)

      41) Does the Tree bear fruit?
      Revelation: yes (22.2)
      Koran: yes (53.14)

      42) Is it given out monthly?
      Revelation: yes (22.1 - 4)
      Koran: yes (108.1)

      43) Who gives access to the Tree of Life?
      Revelation: Jesus (2.7, 22.1 - 4)
      Koran: Lord (108.1)

      44) Does Paradise contain the Water of life?
      Revelation: yes (21.6 – 7, 22.1 - 4)
      Koran: yes (108.1)

      45) Who gives access to the Water of Life?
      Revelation: Jesus (21.6 – 7, 22.1 - 4)
      Koran: Lord (108.1)

      46) Are there two treed gardens?
      Revelation: yes (22.2)
      Koran: yes (53.14)

      47) Are there 24 Elders?
      Revelation: yes (4.4, 4.10, 5.5 – 6, 5.8, 5.11, 5.14)
      Koran: yes (15.47, 37.44, 43.34, 44.53, 52.20, 56.16, 88.13)

      48) Are the Elders in a circle?
      Revelation: yes (4.4)
      Koran: yes (37.44, 15.47, 56.16, 44.53)

      49) Are the Elders on thrones?
      Revelation: yes (4.4)
      Koran: yes (37.44, 43.34, 52.20, 56.15 – 16, 88.13)

      50) Are there 4 living creatures?
      Revelation: yes (4.6 – 8, 6.3, 6.5, 6.7)
      Koran: yes (53.16 – 53.19)

      51) Are these four living creatures covered with eyes?
      Revelation: yes (4.6 - 8)
      Koran: yes (53.16 – 53.19)

      52) Are these four living creatures in likeness to a bird?
      Revelation: yes (4.6 - 8)
      Koran: yes (53.17)

      53) Is one of the four living creatures in likeness to a man?
      Revelation: yes (4.7)
      Koran: yes (53.19)

      54) Is one of the four living creatures in likeness to an eagle?
      Revelation: yes (4.7)
      Koran: yes (53.19)

      55) Does one of the four living creatures make a decree of death?
      Revelation: yes (6.6 - 8)
      Koran: yes (53.20)

      56) Is the Lord sitting on a Throne?
      Revelation: yes (22.1 - 4)
      Koran: yes (13.2, 32.4, 81.20)

      57) What is the appearance of the One sitting on the Throne?
      Revelation: reddish (4.3)
      Koran: reddish (81.20)

      58) Do the Elect reside on the Throne with God?
      Revelation: yes (3.20 - 21)
      Koran: yes (56.15)

      59) Do the Elect come out of The Great Tribulation?
      Revelation: yes (7.14)
      Koran: yes (86.9)

      60) Have the Elect washed and whitened their clothes?
      Revelation: yes (7.14, 22.14)
      Koran: yes (44.54, 52.20, 56.22)

      61) Are the Elect called virgins?
      Revelation: yes (14.3 - 4)
      Koran: yes (78.32 - 33)

      62) Are the Elect called first fruits?
      Revelation: yes (14.3 - 4)
      Koran: yes (56.35 - 36)

      63) Will there be a book of Judgment?
      Revelation: yes (20.12)
      Koran: yes (81.10)

      64) Does the Resurrection occur on a future day?
      Revelation: yes (7.14)
      Koran: yes (20.102, 86.9)

      65) Is a horn blown into?
      Revelation: yes (11.15)
      Koran: yes (6.73, 18.99, 20.102, 23.101, 27.87, 36.51, 39.68, 50.20, 69.13, 78.18)

      66) To whom does this Day belong?
      Revelation: Christ (11.15)
      Koran: His Word, The Truth, The King (i.e. Jesus Christ) (6.73)

      67) Is the Resurrection a marriage?
      Revelation: yes (19.7 - 9)
      Koran: yes (86.9, 81.7)

      68) Is the Resurrection a marriage feast?
      Revelation: yes (2.7, 22.1 - 2)
      Koran: yes (86.9)

      69) Does this marriage feast involve food and drink?
      Revelation: yes (2.7, 22.1 - 2)
      Koran: yes (56.16, 86.9)

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      Re: Koranic Heaven...

      the bible and quran deal with the same subject, of course they are in accordance.
      “And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
      For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
      (Luke 11:9-10)

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      Re: Koranic Heaven...

      Quote Originally posted by barnasha View Post
      the bible and quran deal with the same subject, of course they are in accordance.
      Both proclaim Jesus as God.

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      Jesus and those who came before him expressed faith in the god of Abraham - not humans
      “And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
      For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
      (Luke 11:9-10)

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      Quote Originally posted by barnasha View Post
      Jesus and those who came before him expressed faith in the god of Abraham - not humans
      Explain why Yahweh is described as a man upon the Throne in the OT.

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      Re: Koranic Heaven...

      If he is described as a man, then how is he god?

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      Re: Koranic Heaven...

      explain why there is any figurative language in the bible at all.

      What kind of man has big enough feet to rest them on the planet? And how does that man breathe if his head is outside of the atmosphere? "The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool"

      why did jesus say we we should kill his enemies in front of him?

      why does the bible say "God is not a man", do you think that's figurative?
      “And so I tell you, keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you.
      For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.
      (Luke 11:9-10)

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      Quote Originally posted by Ilah View Post
      If he is described as a man, then how is he god?
      God in the flesh.

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      Quote Originally posted by barnasha View Post
      explain why there is any figurative language in the bible at all.

      What kind of man has big enough feet to rest them on the planet? And how does that man breathe if his head is outside of the atmosphere? "The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool"

      why did jesus say we we should kill his enemies in front of him?

      why does the bible say "God is not a man", do you think that's figurative?
      The interpretation of scripture is determined by its context.

      When the Holy Bible repeatedly describes Yahweh as a man, in literal context, then we should take heed.

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      Quote Originally posted by Bowman View Post
      God in the flesh.
      How do you know it's not just a man?

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      Quote Originally posted by Ilah View Post
      How do you know it's not just a man?
      Because the scriptures state that it is Yahweh.

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      Quote Originally posted by Bowman View Post
      Because the scriptures state that it is Yahweh.
      That doesn't prove that it's not just a man. It does prove that they don't actually believe in a God but rather a man whose name is Yahweh and that they believed his claim of being a God. It also explains why he was on Earth and, as he's obviously dead now, why he's no longer on Earth.

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      Re: Koranic Heaven...

      Are you a theist Ilah?


      "Give the Word a chance to say that the Word is just the Way. It's the Word I'm thinking of, and the only Word is love" - John Lennon

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      Quote Originally posted by Ilah View Post
      That doesn't prove that it's not just a man. It does prove that they don't actually believe in a God but rather a man whose name is Yahweh and that they believed his claim of being a God. It also explains why he was on Earth and, as he's obviously dead now, why he's no longer on Earth.
      Perhaps you need to reference the scriptures to which you refer.

      We are discussing scriptural accounts of Yahweh upon the Throne in Heaven.

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      Quote Originally posted by Adrift View Post
      Are you a theist Ilah?
      I think so. Why do you ask?

      Quote Originally posted by Bowman View Post
      Perhaps you need to reference the scriptures to which you refer.

      We are discussing scriptural accounts of Yahweh upon the Throne in Heaven.
      If you read Genesis 1:1, God says he created the Heavens and the Earth. The word used for Heavens, which is Shamayim, literally translates to Sky. So the Throne would be in the Sky which means on Earth. As we have not seen any throne in the sky, I think it's suffice to say that such God does not exist or the Throne.

      I thought you were doing a study on how the Qur'an copies the concept of Heaven from the Bible and how apparently it's for followers of Christ only, even in the Quran.

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      3) Will the Old Heavens and the Old Earth pass away?
      Revelation: yes (21.1)
      Koran: yes (81.11)
      Is this Old Heaven referring to the sky? And how can Heaven and Earth "pass away"? Would "destroyed" not be a better word or something?

      I checked Verse 81:11 and all it mentions is the sky/heaven. The sky is stripped away or the heaven has its coverings removed or removed entirely or so. Nothing about Earth.

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