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February 3rd 2011, 10:38 AM #1
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Male - ChristianCHurch of Laodecia found
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.p...key-2011-01-31
OK, it's kinda geeky, but still cool.Culture and Tourism Minister Ertuğrul Günay visited the ancient city of Laodicea on Sunday in Denizli province and was briefed by Professor Celal Şimşek, head of the excavation team. The professor said they have discovered the Laodicea Church, one of the seven mentioned in the Bible. Şimşek said the church from the fourth century A.D. was found by underground radar search, a system they have tried this year for the first time. “The major part of the church, which is built on an area of 2,000 square meters, has kept its original [status].”
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February 3rd 2011, 12:24 PM #2
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
wow. 2000 square meters. The first megachurch!
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February 3rd 2011, 03:05 PM #3
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Male - Micah 6:8Re: CHurch of Laodecia found
Wait. Did they have church buildings then? When Paul wrote "to the church" it wasn't to a particular congregation but to a group of believers in a certain city. They weren't worshiping in church buildings they were worshiping in homes etc.
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February 3rd 2011, 03:08 PM #4
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
They also met in synagogues.
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February 3rd 2011, 03:13 PM #5
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Male - Micah 6:8Re: CHurch of Laodecia found
Yes, That would make sense. If this group and the local synagogue were on good terms.
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February 3rd 2011, 03:18 PM #6
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
It might have started out as a synagogue and turned into a church. According to the article it is dated from 4th century AD, which is quite a long time from the first century version of what the church might have been. Originally posted by Pilgrim
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February 3rd 2011, 03:55 PM #7
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
Can you imagine the Choas if Paul's letter to Laodecia were found?
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February 3rd 2011, 03:59 PM #8
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
do we even know if he wrote one? Originally posted by themuzicman
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February 3rd 2011, 04:00 PM #9
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
Yeah, he mentions it in Colossians.
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February 3rd 2011, 09:23 PM #10
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
Also possible, I imagine, is that we have a fourth century edifice built atop the prior location of an established house church with a longer pedigree. Originally posted by Sparko
At the very least, wherever the Laodicean Christians were meeting in the first through third centuries, we've found where they were meeting in the fourth. Which is teh awesomes."If God has given [his people] such joy now, joy in their faith, in their hope, in love, in the truth of his scriptures, what kind of joy is he preparing for them at the end? If he feeds them like this on the journey, how will he feast them in their homeland?"--Augustine of Hippo
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February 5th 2011, 09:17 PM #11
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
I can't imagine what "Choas" even is. I'd assume it's just a typo, but you capitalized it. Originally posted by themuzicman
If Paul's letter to Laodicea were found, I'd read it.
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February 5th 2011, 10:27 PM #12
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
Would it be considered for canon or no? I would say no because it would have been considered in the days that the canon was forming, right?
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February 5th 2011, 11:30 PM #13
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Male - ChristianRe: CHurch of Laodecia found
I don't think it would be, for the reason you mention. I can see some denominations possibly including it, but the current fractured state of Christianity and the independence of most publishers from any denominational control would make the status quo very difficult to overcome.
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