Getting to grips with God

[firstfloor]

I dunno.
I feel like my faith gives me the strength to treat others better.
I've worked through a great deal of forgiveness and such.
I'm more content than I've ever been.

Isn't there a way to start WWIII that doesn't have me abandoning the good in my life?

You should take credit for your own strength. Do not let religion steal that from you; it is undignified. You are entitled to pride.

[One Bad Pig]

You should take credit for your own strength. Do not let religion steal that from you; it is undignified. You are entitled to pride.

You're welcome.

[firstfloor]

The suicide bomber also looks to God for strength. All these ideas about the heavenly father and so on are failures to take responsibility for your own actions.

[One Bad Pig]

The suicide bomber also looks to God for strength.

Close. He's looking to his 70 virgins.

All these ideas about the heavenly father and so on are failures to take responsibility for your own actions.

Because we're obviously all hard determinists.

[seer]

You are entitled to pride.

There you go...

According to Christian teachers, the essential vice, the utmost evil, is Pride. Unchastity, anger, greed, drunkenness, and all that, are mere fleabites in comparison:it was through Pride that the devil became the devil: Pride leads to every other vice:it is the complete anti-God state of mind. CS Lewis

[One Bad Pig]

There you go...

You have to remember that firstfloor is really, really good at saying the exact opposite of what is right. Every once in a while, he says something which is actually right in order to keep us on our toes.

[firstfloor]

There you go...

They tell you this lie because they want robots, not people.

[firstfloor]

[JonathanL]

None of those things indicate pride. They're beliefs which in themselves do not indicate pride. Having those beliefs might engender pride, but they're not cause of, or indication of pride.

[JonathanL]

They tell you this lie because they want robots, not people.

You're the one who believes that we're no more than soulless animals, so if that was really the case you'd fit right in.

[firstfloor]

You're the one who believes that we're no more than soulless animals, so if that was really the case you'd fit right in.

[JonathanL]

You have it exactly back to front as usual. What Christianity wants from you is communist uniformity. You must not stand out, rock the boat or otherwise indulge yourself in any way.

I've never heard that message being preached in any church or congregation I've ever been to.

[seer]

And this is why atheism is so easy, nothing to believe or defend except for the concept that a god does not exist. Nothing to die for and nothing to live for. A child's philosophy.

[tabibito]

Not against pride, just against arrogance and hubris. It's kind of unfortunate that people haven't caught on to the idea that words change meaning from time to time. What pride meant in (and before) 1611, it no longer does.

[Tassman]

I've never heard that message being preached in any church or congregation I've ever been to.

I think what FF's saying is that the religions demand conformity to it's "god-given" rules of morality, the problem being that they vary from religion to religion and denomination to denomination.