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mNot what i've read. Most like included footnote of some scribe.
Sorry, but the fact of the matter is that the passage is in the earliest manuscripts and the scholarly consensus is that it is a parenthetical editorial comment by Mark. Would you care to provide your source to substantiate your claim?

Well at any rate please dont quote scripture until you have examined the context carefully.I am starting to notice a consistent pattern in your responses to me.
I am well aware of the context. I understand that Jesus was addressing the Pharisees objection to the disciples’ unwashed hands. However, Jesus also launches into a full-scale attack and expands his rebuke to include the fact that it is not food that defiles, but rather, moral filth. Christ was enforcing that all defilement comes from within. You, however, just like Peter are still under the influence of old ideas, and thus cannot understand the saying and need an explanation (Matthew 15:15). In the parallel passage of Mark 7:19 the evangelist explains the full bearing of Jesus' words in which he declares all foods clean.

Jesus was obviously NOT discussing the dietary laws here.Food was not the topic of these statements at all. I don't know, maybe you think Jesus didnt obey Torah perfectly?
Jesus was clearly discussing the issue of all food "what goes into a persons mouth" doesn't matter. You are currently arguing with Him. You are stating that some things that go in the mouth do defile a man. Why do you think Jesus' statements are currently at odds with yours?

Further, Jesus absolutely obeyed Torah; in fact, he gives the law its true, spiritual interpretation - something that the natural, carnal man has a difficult time discerning. You see, the entire point of giving instructions for the temple, the brazen altar, the table of the showbread, the altar of incense, the menorah, etc. Even the position of the gate had a deeper meaning. Those laws were a type and shadow of a deeper truth to be revealed. We are now walking in the revealed . . . therefore; there is no longer a need to insist that people keep the shadow.

If so you have some major theological problems related to Matthew 5:17-19 and Jesus clear statements about "anyone who breaks the least of the commands and teaches others to do the same will be least in the kingdom of Heaven."
Right and I provided a thorough exegesis of Matthew 5: 17-19 and how it relates to the kingdom of heaven in the other thread - clearly I don't have any issues with that passage.

..Do you see the hypocracy issue there? Do you realize that Jesus could not have been the sinless sacrifice for mankind if he transgressed the Torah Law even at one point! As the apostle John defined the issue "sin is the transgression of the Law (Torah)" That is the definition of sin! Now we have all transgressed and are all sinners. And we are all dependant on God's grace. But does that mean we throw out the Holy standard that grace may abound!. We do agree Jesus was sinless.Therefore he did not violate Torah!.
Yes, Jesus was indeed sinless - the perfect, unblemished sacrifice. It is Christ alone who is our righteousness. I am glad that you acknowledge that those who are attempting to be justified and accepted by God through fulfilling the Torah have fallen from grace and are under a curse. Further, once again, I find it necessary to highlight the spirit of the law. You see, believers in Christ fulfill the law by loving God with all our powers, and our neighbor as ourselves. Galatians 5:13-14 states:

"You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Indeed, Romans 7:6 states:

"But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."



Jesus was using the issue the Pharisees brought up about handwashing and the uncleaness related to it . He was making this as a jab at the Pharisees dealing with the extra biblical teachings they were promoting as law.He was also teaching the disciples in the process. Thus the comment about what comes out of a man that makes him unclean.This was regarding the leaven of the Pharisees that Jesus warned the disciples about.(same issue)
Can you explain to me exactly what the leaven of the Pharisees is?

I am not interested in continuously arguing the same points again and again. When I do respond to your questions you seem to ignore the points I make and repeat your same points over and over. I feel like i am being given a sales pitch here. I'm not buying so save it for the tourists!
Blessings!
"Do not be led away by diverse and strange teachings, for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, which have not benefited those devoted to them." (Heb. 13:9).

Blessings!