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      Re: The word made flesh!

      Quote Originally posted by sylvius View Post
      Where exactly is written that "the word of Hashem" is Jesus?


      You quoted John 1:14, part of a long intro passage that all but maybe 20 of all Christians the world over and for the last 2,000 years believe is describing Jesus. Now, I wasn't given a programme at the entrance to T-Web that might include a description of "Christian (Other)" so please forgive me for going with the statistically safe assumption I was not talking to one of those 20.

      If you want to argue about whether or not Jesus was the word of God made flesh, there are more than enough Christians here who would love to take up that debate. I'm not going to argue it, I have no dog in that hunt.

      But if you aren't trying to tell me that Jesus is "the word of God made flesh" then what are you trying to say? State it as simply as you can, because I'm apparently too obtuse to understand your point so far.
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      Re: The word made flesh!

      Quote Originally posted by Salty View Post


      You quoted John 1:14, part of a long intro passage that all but maybe 20 of all Christians the world over and for the last 2,000 years believe is describing Jesus. Now, I wasn't given a programme at the entrance to T-Web that might include a description of "Christian (Other)" so please forgive me for going with the statistically safe assumption I was not talking to one of those 20.

      If you want to argue about whether or not Jesus was the word of God made flesh, there are more than enough Christians here who would love to take up that debate. I'm not going to argue it, I have no dog in that hunt.

      But if you aren't trying to tell me that Jesus is "the word of God made flesh" then what are you trying to say? State it as simply as you can, because I'm apparently too obtuse to understand your point so far.
      4 Zion was the thread-starter, not me, but I immediately jumped in stating that John 1:14 does NOT read "The word was made flesh" let "the word was Jesus" or "Jesus was God".

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      Re: The word made flesh!

      Quote Originally posted by sylvius View Post
      4 Zion was the thread-starter, not me, but I immediately jumped in stating that John 1:14 does NOT read "The word was made flesh" let "the word was Jesus" or "Jesus was God".
      It says exactly, "και o λογος σαρξ εγενετο"; which means: "and a word being the fathide (ie skin and fat) was."
      There is so much negativity that seems to hold the universe together.

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