What happened to the demons?

[Cybelle Hawke]

1. Jesus was the catalyst and is therefore responsible for the losses! Any first-year law student knows that!

2. Sorry I missed that. Care to show me where I can find that verse?

Hi Yo. How are you doing? Have not heard much from you lately, hope all is well with you.

Was reading your postings and just want to comment a little bit (for the fun of interacting with you which I sublimely enjoy as you may know)

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All and the only word Jesus speaks in that full bible passage (Matt 8:28-34) is: Go.
Matt 8:32 And he said unto them, Go.

I believe you when you imply that for lawyers that single word is enough to turn that into a successful lawsuit to compensate the losses but then again, lawyers have the unfortunate tendancy to twist and turn every word in their advantage and not seldom they are hired exactly for that.


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Matt 8:28 and when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes

The country of the Gergesenes (Gadarenes or Gerasenes) is said to be situated on the eastern side of the sea of Galilee and its cities Gerasa and Gadera are described as gentile cities, that is more Greek than Semitic. If I am not mistaken, both historically and archaeologically, Gerasa an Gadera are accounted for and now are the cities of Jerash and Umm Qais. It is generally assumed that this is why there would be swine around but I am sure you will challenge that assumption.

[phaedrus]

So, do we agree that at least in some Christian thought, demons can possess or enter animals?

[Pitchforkpat]

So, do we agree that at least in some Christian thought, demons can possess or enter animals?

Ok but why they’d supposedly want to is hard to imagine. What would be gained? And what is gained by the animals committing suicide? Did the demons “die”? If not, wouldn’t they just be free to inhabit new people? What would this have accomplished?

[yo lunch]

Hi Yo. How are you doing? Have not heard much from you lately, hope all is well with you.

Was reading your postings and just want to comment a little bit (for the fun of interacting with you which I sublimely enjoy as you may know)

Ad 1
All and the only word Jesus speaks in that full bible passage (Matt 8:28-34) is: Go.
Matt 8:32 And he said unto them, Go.

I believe you when you imply that for lawyers that single word is enough to turn that into a successful lawsuit to compensate the losses but then again, lawyers have the unfortunate tendancy to twist and turn every word in their advantage and not seldom they are hired exactly for that.


Ad 2
Matt 8:28 and when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes

The country of the Gergesenes (Gadarenes or Gerasenes) is said to be situated on the eastern side of the sea of Galilee and its cities Gerasa and Gadera are described as gentile cities, that is more Greek than Semitic. If I am not mistaken, both historically and archaeologically, Gerasa an Gadera are accounted for and now are the cities of Jerash and Umm Qais. It is generally assumed that this is why there would be swine around but I am sure you will challenge that assumption.

Hi there, glad to hear from you as well!

1. Jesus, as I said before, is supposedly divine and thus reputed to be privy to things that no other human beings are. Therefore, he should have known which way the demons would run. So, he is responsible for the damages and should make recompense. Even if he did not know, he is still responsible for all the damages. I defy any lawyer to tell me differently!

Furthermore, before giving the go-ahead, the demons asked Jesus to dispatch them into the pigs and Jesus gave them their wish! That makes him culpable for the action of the demons and responsible for the demise of those swine!

Another salient point is that Jesus did not use the best means of dispatching those demons! I, a mere mortal, have a much better plan and that is to have them to simply vanish!

2. You are wrong to be "sure" that I will challenge you here because I will concede the point. That makes us even, I win point one and I'll give you point two.

Thanks for your input.

[Mountain Man]

I look good in a bow tie.

Bow ties are cool.

matt-smith-doctor-who.jpg

[yo lunch]

Ok but why they’d supposedly want to is hard to imagine. What would be gained? And what is gained by the animals committing suicide? Did the demons “die”? If not, wouldn’t they just be free to inhabit new people? What would this have accomplished?

Right on point!

Another question that the Christians continue to duck is that this story is absolutely absurd in the first place because science tells us today that it is germs that make us ill and not "demons!"

[yo lunch]

Bow ties are cool.

matt-smith-doctor-who.jpg

Ties may be cool

But you are a fool

Now, go into a corner and drool!

[Hamster]

The pigs belonged to Jesus, as does everything else in the universe.

We don't know about the person who owned the pigs, for all we know he deserved to have his livelihood damaged. The story doesn't say so we can only speculate

We know few details about what demons are like other than they can talk, are bad, and can enter living things. For all we know they could have been idiots and thought they could survive in the pigs and didn't realize it would drive the pigs crazy.

There's no reason to have a concrete 'explanation' for every detail in the story. If you want to read between the lines and interpret this in the worst possible light, knock yourself out.

[Carrikature]

Asking what happened next is like breaking off in the middle of a sentence. I can go on and on and expound upon some great philosophical

[justgin]

All kidding aside, the demons were disembodied before the pigs, and of course would become disembodied once the pigs died. Where did they go? To Washington, of course

[Mountain Man]

Does it matter?

[justgin]

Does it matter?

Not to me, but to those who live in Washington

[Pitchforkpat]

For all we know they could have been idiots and thought they could survive in the pigs and didn't realize it would drive the pigs crazy.

But Jesus would know. So the question is what did he gain by allowing them to go into the pigs.

Are you saying the demons “died” along with the pigs?

There's no reason to have a concrete 'explanation' for every detail in the story.

But the story does not seem to make any sense. If the demons went to the abyss, then what did Jesus gain by allowing them to kill the pigs? If they just left the pigs, then they would be free to inhabit other humans, so what has been gained?

[Pitchforkpat]

Asking what happened next is like breaking off in the middle of a sentence. I can go on and on and expound upon some great philosophical

No, asking what happened next is like asking if a story in the Bible makes sense. Apparently it doesn’t since not a single Christian in Tweb has been able to make sense of this.

[Pitchforkpat]

Does it matter?

Well let's see. Can you answer the question in a way that makes any sense?