Does god speak in the New Testament?

[Tanakh Keeper]

Is it true that there isn't a single place in the entire New Testament where god speaks? I'm not asking about Jesus speaking, but god.

[Kelp]

Hi.

God speaks several times in the NT.

Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

John 1:32 (emphasis mine) "And John bore witness, saying, “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He remained upon Him. 33 I did not know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘Upon whom you see the Spirit descending, and remaining on Him, this is He who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and testified that this is the Son of God.”

John 12:27-33 (emphasis mine) “Now My soul is troubled, and what shall I say? ‘Father, save Me from this hour’? But for this purpose I came to this hour. Father, glorify Your name.”
Then a voice came from heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.”
29 Therefore the people who stood by and heard it said that it had thundered. Others said, “An angel has spoken to Him.”
30 Jesus answered and said, “This voice did not come because of Me, but for your sake. 31 Now is the judgment of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out. 32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to Myself.” 33 This He said, signifying by what death He would die."

Acts 10:9-13 The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.”
But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common.” This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again.

Acts 16:6-7 might have involved words. "Now when they had gone through Phrygia and the region of Galatia, they were forbidden by the Holy Spirit to preach the word in Asia. After they had come to Mysia, they tried to go into Bithynia, but the Spirit did not permit them."

If you count angels speaking for God we have even more, such as:


Acts 10:1-8 "There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Regiment, a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always. About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God coming in and saying to him, “Cornelius!” And when he observed him, he was afraid, and said, “What is it, lord?”
So he said to him, “Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before God. Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. He is lodging with Simon, a tanner, whose house is by the sea. He will tell you what you must do.” And when the angel who spoke to him had departed, Cornelius called two of his household servants and a devout soldier from among those who waited on him continually. So when he had explained all these things to them, he sent them to Joppa."

As well as angels in the Resurrection and Nativity accounts and throughout the book of Revelation. I can't recall if the Father speaks directly in Revelation, He might. And then there are a lot of times God in the Tanakh is quoted and not just applied to Jesus.

Hope this helps!

[Tanakh Keeper]

Hi Kelp

I didn’t ask about the OT or about angels. Your examples from the NT are “a voice come from heaven”, “He who sent me said”, and “a voice came to him”. Are you sure there is no verse in which the words “God said…” plainly appears in the NT?

[Kelp]

Those are clearly implied to be God speaking. Who else would say, "I have glorified it and will glorify it again" in response to Jesus saying, "Father, glorify your name"? If you say, "Satan," or "a hallucination," etc.then my next question will be how you know God ever really spoke in the OT.

As far as a direct, "And God said, "I...."" no, I don't recall one that doesn't involve the NT applying God's words from the OT like in Hebrews 1:8-10. I could be forgetting, though.

[Tanakh Keeper]

Thank you for your help.

[Kelp]

Ok. You're welcome

[BrunoMars]

Is there any difference between Jesus and GOD ?
I dont think So .

[BrunoMars]

Thank you for sharing this wonderful post.
this is really very helpful . . . Thanks alot.

[Kelp]

Is there any difference between Jesus and GOD ?
I dont think So .

Well, they are two different persons within the Godhead, but they wouldn't contradict each other, so in this case them speaking is the same.

The reason TK wanted instances of God the Father speaking only is because he's isn't Christian.

Thank you for sharing this wonderful post.
this is really very helpful . . . Thanks alot.

You're welcome :)!

[Aposphet]

Christ is fully God and fully man, the incarnation of the Word, the second person of the Holy Trinity; so when Christ speaks it is God speaking.

[Kelp]

Christ is fully God and fully man, the incarnation of the Word, the second person of the Holy Trinity; so when Christ speaks it is God speaking.

Yep.

[kappitts]

When someone asks this question it is important to have a New Testament perspective, in the NT Jesus portrayed as God to the point that He is refereed to the Almighty in Revelations. It is also important to note that we believe Jesus had a active role in OT events as well.

[Tanakh Keeper]

When someone asks this question it is important to have a New Testament perspective...

Which is exactly why I posted my question in the christian theology section. I ONLY wanted a Christian to answer.

[mitzi]

Is it true that there isn't a single place in the entire New Testament where god speaks? I'm not asking about Jesus speaking, but god.

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Yes, when you read the Hebrew bible (the Tanakh) and in (Bere[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]) Genesis, scripture tells us that “God walked in the cool of the day”, and when Adam and Eve sinned they hid, quote “and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden”. Can you imagine yourself hiding from God? Scripture quotes, “God came looking for them: Gen. 3:9 says, "Then the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, 'Where are you?”…Why, did God have to ask? (Psalm 139)

After the expulsion from the Garden, did scripture ever “note” that God walked or even spoke with either Adam or Eve? In (Bere[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color]) Genesis (again) we read that Cain killed his brother – Abel, we hear that the LORD said to Cain, “Where is your brother Abel?”... Then response back to God, from Cain, was “I don’t know,” he replied. “Am I my brother’s keeper?” 10 The LORD said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground. 11 Now you are under a curse and driven from the ground, which opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12 When you work the ground, it will no longer yield its crops for you. You will be a restless wanderer on the earth.”

Then when we read about Enoch – we know (and even from the Acts of the Apostles) that he walked faithfully with God – (Genesis 5:21-24 “23 Altogether, Enoch lived a total of 365 years. 24 Enoch walked faithfully with God; then he was no more, because God took him away.” And reading from Hebrews 11:5-6 the same notations are listed). As Paul the apostle states “all” of the ancestry and their faith toward God, 11:1 “It is for their faith that our ancestors are acknowledged. – it is by faith that we understand that the ages were created by a word from God so that from the invisible the visible world came to be”. With the thought of that connotation, came this verse “Only faith can guarantee the blessings that we hope for, or prove the existence of realities that are unseen. **

Continuing this thought, so as to make a point with you. Also, looking toward Noah, (Hebrews 11, again) “It was through his faith that Noah, when he had been warned by God of something that had never been seen before, took care to build an ark to save his family. His faith was a judgment on the world. And he was able to claim the uprightness which comes from faith” - again quoting this from Bere[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] (Genesis), “Noah was a righteous man, blameless among the people of his time, and he walked faithfully with God. “ – Again scripture reads “walked with God”

When continuing later in Genesis – chapter 12, 1 The LORD had said to Abram, “Leave your country, your kindred and your father’s house. In Genesis 15 the opening verse said “the word of Yahweh came to Abram in a vision” and in Genesis 17, the opening verse says, “When Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to him and said, “I am God Almighty (I am El Shaddai); walk before me faithfully and be blameless. 2 Then I will make my covenant between me and you and will greatly increase your numbers.” – 2nd part to this was on line 4, “God spoke to him as follows” then in Genesis 18, “Yahweh appeared to him at the Oak of Mamre.”

So now with Isaac, God blessed his son (Abraham’s son) Isaac, as scripture notes that Isaac settled near the well of Lahai Roi – “Hagar gave a name to Yahweh who had spoken to her, “You are El Roi – by which she meant, “Did I not go on seeing here, after him who sees me?” – This is why the well is called the well of Lahai Roi; it is between Kadesh and Bered.
It was God who appeared to Isaac and said (Genesis 26:2-4) “Do not go down to Egypt; stay in the country which I shall point out to you. “

And with Jacob (Israel), came the twelve tribes – Genesis 28:12-22, “And there was Yahweh, standing beside him and saying “I, Yahweh, am the God of Abraham your father, and the God of Isaac.”

In every prayer that we recite - these three names as they are called out appear (always) and also to the remembrance of the promises that God made to them; 2nd book of Maccabees “May God prosper you, remembering his covenant with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, his faithful servants” –

Now with Moses, God had shown Moses all of his glory, as scripture said, “Now show me your glory."– After Jacob and after Moses, did any prophet “see” God or “walk” with God?

“And the LORD said, "I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the LORD, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.”

Tanakh keeper – you are asking a question from these points in scripture, that if the New Testament ever listed that “God said…” – and not giving creditability to the verse in Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Spirit descended in bodily form like a dove upon Him, and a voice came from heaven which said, “You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased.”

And that’s fine, but what you cannot deny is the fact that when “God said…”, creation was formed (and God’s Spirit hovered over the waters…) and so when God spoke to Abraham.. He then created the Jewish nation the minute they crossed the sea of Reeds – from slavery in Egypt into freedom by the 'mighty arm' of Yahweh and they received Torah (the law) – His words to live by.

When God came to Abraham – scripture notes that the Lord said (Genesis 12), then the opening verse in Genesis 15 said “the word of Yahweh came to”, and last and the most important verse - Genesis 17, “the LORD appeared to him and said”….Match the verse “The word of God came to” with the New Testament passages and then with “the LORD appeared to Him” – as to match this with “the LORD appeared to US” - in the same velocity. Look at the passage and read them>> He walked with us, He spoke to us and also He said to us...

Mitzi

[Tanakh Keeper]

... but what you cannot deny ....

I'm not denying anything nor stating any conclusions in this thread. I simply posted here to ask Christians if god explicitly speaks in their New Testament. Period. Your post simply agreed with what others have already stated.