Trump gives highly classified information to the Russians

[Tassman]

I see today Allies distance themselves from U.S. after Trump's first foreign trip. One of the bizarro propaganda talking points that MM and his ilk always harp on about is how, in their alternative fantasy-world "Obama discouraged our allies and emboldened our enemies". MM will be along shortly to link us to some Brietbart propaganda piece that declares Trump's trip to Europe a raving success. Trump might be as dumb as a doorknob and have dementia to boot, but MM the apologist will always be there trying to out-dumb Sean Spicer and Sarah Huckabee in their contradictory ludicrous explanations to explain away everything Trump does wrong.

[Starlight]

MM would believe it was a gourmet meal if a Breitbart article told him it was, or if a NYT or WaPo or CNN article said it wasn't.

[Mountain Man]

"They're not vague suspicions! And to prove it, here are some vague suspicions!"

Nice "own goal" there, kiddo.

As for this Kushner rumor, things don't quite add up if you really think about (I know, liberals aren't into this whole "thinking" phenomenon).

Consider:

The Washington Post supposedly got a letter detailing this information back in December. Why did they sit on it so long? And why are they being so coy about the details now? Some have begun to speculate that the letter may not even exist, or that it's another "dossier" full of unverified (meaning false) information, and this is why the Post is playing it so close to the vest. The Post itself even describes it as an "anonymous letter", which is certainly suspicious. The first clue that you're dealing with fake news is when the story doesn't give a specific attribution.

Second, why would Kushner be setting up these supposed "back-channels" after the election? Remember, Kushner was hired as part of the transition team. If the Russian conspiracy is true then the Trump team would have already had their "back-channels" in place so they could collude with Russia to win the election. According to the Post, the Russian ambassador was supposedly "taken aback by the suggestion" from Kushner, which doesn't make any sense. Why would he be "taken aback" if Trump was already in league with Putin? If this story is true, doesn't it pretty much blow-up the Russian collusion accusations?

Finally, if we grant that this is true, what crime was actually committed? Well that's an easy answer: none.

The wheels are coming off this liberal narrative so fast that you have to duck to avoid the shrapnel.

[Tassman]

As for this Kushner rumor, things don't quite add up if you really think about (I know, liberals aren't into this whole "thinking" phenomenon).

Consider:

The Washington Post supposedly got a letter detailing this information back in December. Why did they sit on it so long? And why are they being so coy about the details now? Some have begun to speculate that the letter may not even exist, or that it's another "dossier" full of unverified (meaning false) information, and this is why the Post is playing it so close to the vest. The Post itself even describes it as an "anonymous letter", which is certainly suspicious. The first clue that you're dealing with fake news is when the story doesn't give a specific attribution.

Second, why would Kushner be setting up these supposed "back-channels" after the election? Remember, Kushner was hired as part of the transition team. If the Russian conspiracy is true then the Trump team would have already had their "back-channels" in place so they could collude with Russia to win the election. According to the Post, the Russian ambassador was supposedly "taken aback by the suggestion" from Kushner, which doesn't make any sense. Why would he be "taken aback" if Trump was already in league with Putin? If this story is true, doesn't it pretty much blow-up the Russian collusion accusations?

Finally, if we grant that this is true, what crime was actually committed? Well that's an easy answer: none.

The crime, if proved, is collusion with a hostile power in subverting the US democratic processes.

The wheels are coming off this liberal narrative so fast that you have to duck to avoid the shrapnel.

[Mountain Man]

Hmm... so no direct response to any of my points... is that your way of conceding the argument?

None of which alters the fact that this whole palaver began when the US intelligence community released a unanimous statement formally accusing Russia of being behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

You're still desperately clinging to that discredited nonsense? That anonymous statement that didn't make any specific accusation and offered zero evidenceto to support its innuendos? And in the meantime, we've learned that the CIA knows how to leave digital fingerprints implicating other governments along with suggestions that there was no hack at all and it was all the work of a Democrat insider.

The crime, if proved, is collusion with a hostile power in subverting the US democratic processes.

Assuming these wild-eyed conspiracy theories are even true, what law was actually broken? Name the specific legal statute, if you can.

You keep clinging to those vague suspicions, kiddo.

[Tassman]

You're still desperately clinging to that discredited nonsense? That anonymous statement that didn't make any specific accusation and offered zero evidenceto to support its innuendos? And in the meantime, we've learned that the CIA knows how to leave digital fingerprints implicating other governments along with suggestions that there was no hack at all and it was all the work of a Democrat insider.

Oh, has the US intelligence community retracted their unanimous statement formally accusing Russia of being behind the hacking of the Democratic National Committee? Answer, no they have not.

Assuming these wild-eyed conspiracy theories are even true, what law was actually broken? Name the specific legal statute, if you can.

You keep clinging to those vague suspicions, kiddo.

So that the FBI has selected former FBI Director Robert Mueller as a special counsel in the Russia investigation. This constitutes a major escalation of the investigation. But don't let any of this interfere with your Breitbart fuelled blanket denial, kiddo.

[Mountain Man]

Your ignorance is wearying. We've been over this all before, and it'd be a waste of my time to do it again.

[Meh Gerbil]

Your ignorance is wearying. We've been over this all before, and it'd be a waste of my time to do it again.

When a person's goal is to find fault with [insert politician here] at any cost there is no reason for continued conversation.

[Bill the Cat]

that the FBI has selected former FBI Director Robert Mueller as a special counsel in the Russia investigation. This constitutes a major escalation of the investigation. But don't let any of this interfere with your Breitbart fuelled blanket denial, kiddo.

I continue to be impressed with your level of ignorance on matters of US national security policy.

[Meh Gerbil]

Your ignorance is wearying. We've been over this all before, and it'd be a waste of my time to do it again.

I forget where I read this (may have been on this forum) but one of the reasons some people focus on an individual (like Trump or Hillary) is because they've no core beliefs.
They need a defining evil in their lives to organize their thoughts around - it offers order for a mind otherwise full of chaos.

[MaxVel]

I forget where I read this (may have been on this forum) but one of the reasons some people focus on an individual (like Trump or Hillary) is because they've no core beliefs.
They need a defining evil in their lives to organize their thoughts around - it offers order for a mind otherwise full of chaos.

I appreciate you filling that role for me. I don't know where I would be if I didn't have 'Literally Hitler' Meh Gerbil to focus on...

[Sparko]

I appreciate you filling that role for me. I don't know where I would be if I didn't have 'Literally Hitler' Meh Gerbil to focus on...

If MG doesn't suffice, I am happy to provide that focus for anyone who needs it. That is why my user title says "Troll Magnet"