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  • #61
    Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
    Out of the hundreds of news sources (including tax payer funded NPR) you found one that actually criticize Obama?
    This isn't helping your case if you're trying to establish media credibility.

    Fox News Negative Coverage Of Obama (during campaign): 46% - MSNBC was more negative towards Obama.
    Source: http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/...ox-news-148088

    I know the Fox News bias ya'll were taught in school just doesn't pan out in actual studies.
    You think FOX is balanced?

    And you have the nerve to talk about liberal bias when that conservative porn is your idea of balance? Come on.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      There were plenty of economic improvements during the Obama administration. People forget that Obama started his presidency right at the collapse of the housing bubble in the US, which economists had warned of for a long time.
      The economy stagnated badly - which translated into stagnate wages. Obama's efforts largely lengthened the recession.

      What I'm seeing now is the mobile home industry springing back - and that is probably wage driven, if not consumer confidence.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
        Would they show the interviews where he performed well?
        Do they ask questions that would allow for favorable responses?
        What is the commentary like after the interview?

        You've heard of 'softball' interviews - I mean, you're not a stupid guy, so you know how presentation can do quite a great deal to alter public perception. There is a reason why some people refuse to grant interviews, that is, they've seen the reporter use them as tools of destruction. You're being obtuse, I know you aren't naïve.
        Wow, dude, can you see yourself? Your desperation is just sad.

        Trump's a bumbling delusional ignorant idiot, and he's proved that over and over again. He doesn't know anything about policy, he can't speak in coherent sentences, he goes on stupid and self-incriminating twitter-rants at 4am. Every foreign leader who's met him comes away shaking their heads, and their people reveal how imbecilic he was. And then you whine desperately because the media doesn't treat this like some sort of demented sports game where they have to call it 50/50 regardless of how the players are performing. Sorry dude, this guy is literally the worst and stupidest president in your country's history, and anyone who trusts him is a delusional fool.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
          You think FOX is balanced?
          And you have the nerve to talk about liberal bias when that conservative porn is your idea of balance? Come on.
          The Harvard study puts them at 54% negative on Trump.
          The claim that they're pro-Trump cheerleaders seems a bit overblown.
          Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
            As for the OP, I don't get what you guys are saying. Do all news reporting have to be 50-50 balanced? Isn't that the kind of fake balance people were complaining about a decade back?

            Personally I don't watch news, and the only times I know that Trump has done anything, is through the US bloggers I read. So far though I haven't seen what good exactly his presidency has accomplished. When I ask conservatives he seems to be good only on two points: One judge in the supreme court (who won't overturn Roe) and not being Hillary.

            The wall is dead (thankfully - what a waste of money), that horrible muslim ban is dead, and so far Trumpcare is looking to be even worse than what was developed during the Obama administration, and the Republicans seem to be shocked to find out that what Trump actually wants is single-payer healthcare via taxation.
            No, what they're seeing isn't rational - no president gets through his first 100 days unscathed (although Obama came close) but the directed reporting is completely out of plum. Anytime you see 95% there's either about to be a legitimate impeachment or the media has lost its collective mind. That kind of consensus (for want of a better term) is just ridiculously high. It's the sign of bias unless you have a major league, gonna tick off virtually every American scandal and that frankly isn't the case. Bias is the most rational explanation.

            And no, 50/50 isn't what you should see, either. Op ed-wise, 60-40 or 70-30 are both reasonable; reporting should not have a measurable pos/neg coverage. In reality, it will, but the numbers should be low and the methodology should be having to compensate. In actuality, we see similar numbers to the op-ed. That shows enormous lack of professionalism in the media.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Wow, dude, can you see yourself? Your desperation is just sad.

              Trump's a bumbling delusional ignorant idiot, and he's proved that over and over again. He doesn't know anything about policy, he can't speak in coherent sentences, he goes on stupid and self-incriminating twitter-rants at 4am. Every foreign leader who's met him comes away shaking their heads, and their people reveal how imbecilic he was. And then you whine desperately because the media doesn't treat this like some sort of demented sports game where they have to call it 50/50 regardless of how the players are performing. Sorry dude, this guy is literally the worst and stupidest president in your country's history, and anyone who trusts him is a delusional fool.
              What is your complaint? You display the same traits and still keep posting.


              I'm not a Trump supporter - but this is all hype your spouting.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                Wow, dude, can you see yourself? Your desperation is just sad.

                Trump's a bumbling delusional ignorant idiot, and he's proved that over and over again. He doesn't know anything about policy, he can't speak in coherent sentences, he goes on stupid and self-incriminating twitter-rants at 4am. Every foreign leader who's met him comes away shaking their heads, and their people reveal how imbecilic he was. And then you whine desperately because the media doesn't treat this like some sort of demented sports game where they have to call it 50/50 regardless of how the players are performing. Sorry dude, this guy is literally the worst and stupidest president in your country's history, and anyone who trusts him is a delusional fool.
                I appreciate your perspective, where did you get it?
                Oh, that's right, you're repeating what you've seen ad nauseum in the news.
                The very news sources where journalists are 95% Democrat.

                Don't waste time responding since I can get your perspective by watching CNN.
                In fact, was your rant above your own ideas or did you just cut and paste one of Rosie O'Donnell's rants?

                Here is a fun word to consider right now: Freethinker.
                The term means a person who rejects accepted opinions.

                Given that you're just repeating what 95% of the media claims in 98% of their reporting and that I actually reject those pre-programmed bot-esque sound bites which one of us actually better fits the definition of Freethinker?

                Will you answer that or do you have to wait for NPR to give you an answer first?
                Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                • #68
                  Gerbil's relentless bullying of the mentally disabled is horrific and despicable. Keep it up.
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                    Gerbil's relentless bullying of the mentally disabled is horrific and despicable. Keep it up.
                    Where did the skeptics go?
                    When did TWEB get over run with cultists?

                    I feel like it is the intellectual zombie apocalypse.
                    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                      The Harvard study puts them at 54% negative on Trump.
                      The claim that they're pro-Trump cheerleaders seems a bit overblown.
                      It's all about perspective. From the perspective of someone who views CNN et al. as balanced, Fox is comparatively very conservative and pro-Trump.

                      And then there's Starlight, who thinks CNN is a right-wing outlet; for him, Fox is somewhere over the horizon.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                        The Harvard study puts them at 54% negative on Trump.
                        The claim that they're pro-Trump cheerleaders seems a bit overblown.
                        Dude, just watch it... really.

                        This remind me of when people ask me for "proof" that reality shows are fake and scripted. I usually tell them "just watch it" because I honestly don't know how people can't see it for themselves.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
                          Dude, just watch it... really.

                          This remind me of when people ask me for "proof" that reality shows are fake and scripted. I usually tell them "just watch it" because I honestly don't know how people can't see it for themselves.
                          Dude, you think the people running the Harvard study didn't? Really.

                          It's not as if Harvard itself slants conservative.
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                            The Harvard study puts them at 54% negative on Trump.
                            The claim that they're pro-Trump cheerleaders seems a bit overblown.
                            There are a bunch of people at Fox, including a few of the conservative commentators, who were stridently anti-Trump both during the election and even after it. It was actually kinda fun watching Sean Hannity (a 'yuuge' Trump supporter) go into near apoplectic melt down mode a few times in the last weeks prior to the election because of that.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
                              Dude, just watch it... really.

                              This remind me of when people ask me for "proof" that reality shows are fake and scripted. I usually tell them "just watch it" because I honestly don't know how people can't see it for themselves.
                              I'm not sure where your objection is at this point.

                              1: Do you object to the Harvard study?
                              2: Do you dispute the 54% negative coverage?
                              3: Do you consider 54% negative coverage to be 'cheerleading'?
                              Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                                1: Do you object to the Harvard study?
                                2: Do you dispute the 54% negative coverage?
                                3: Do you consider 54% negative coverage to be 'cheerleading'?
                                I can't be bothered reading the study's methodology, but in the past similar studies I've seen have only analyzed the 'Fox News' program on the Fox News channel and have ignored the fact that other programs on the channel (Fox and Friends, Outnumbered, O'Reilly Factor, Hannity etc) spend their entire shows raving about Trump's greatness. I assume that is what is occurring with this study also. Anyone who watches the Fox News channel in general knows that the people there would gladly let Trump sexually assault them and would blame the democrats for it happening.
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