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  • #61
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    After ignoring the attack during their evening news broadcast ABC, what the network seemed most concerned about this morning is a possible "Anti-Islamic backlash" in Europe. On Good Morning America ABC anchor George Stephanopoulos resisted efforts to link the attack to Muslim extremists and went on several times worrying that this would "likely create backlash" and "likely to inflame anti-Islamic sentiment across Britain, across Europe."

    The priorities of the leftist MSM
    Newsweek has joined in

    Source: Newsweek Quickly Brushes Aside Terror Victims to Highlight Hypothetical Islamophobia Threat

    Muslims in Manchester Fear Reprisals as ISIS Claims Responsibility for Concert Attack

    Gaffey failed to raise any inconvenient questions as to whether the local community may have played a part in Abedi's radicalization, skipping straight to pre-victimhood and speaking of an "inevitable backlash."



    Gaffey portrayed the Muslim community in Manchester as the one under attack:





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    • #62
      Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      I asked God to keep you drinking Pepsi until his connection is lightningbolted.
      At the very least I'll be an answer to prayer!
      First. Time. Ever.
      Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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      • #63
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Newsweek has joined in

        Source: Newsweek Quickly Brushes Aside Terror Victims to Highlight Hypothetical Islamophobia Threat

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        I'd like to see evidence that western men have targeted Muslim women as blowback.
        In our culture targeting women and children is shameful.

        I think the imam projected his priorities onto the west.
        Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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          • #65
            Originally posted by seer View Post
            No one is calling for uncontrolled backlash, but the fact that leftists are even bringing this up when the bodies of eight and ten year olds are not even cold is despicable to me.
            Remember how muslims in the US were unfairly treated right after 9/11? Its worth preventing something like that.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
              Remember how muslims in the US were unfairly treated right after 9/11? Its worth preventing something like that.
              Leonhard living through that time, and knowing families who actually lost loved ones in the Towers, I can tell you that most of those stories about Muslims being treated badly were overblown. At the time my GP and my Dentist were Muslim - they had no problems. The fact is, backlash is not the problem, Islam is.
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                Remember how muslims in the US were unfairly treated right after 9/11?
                No, I really don't remember that. Perhaps you have some specific examples you'd like to share?
                Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
                But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
                Than a fool in the eyes of God


                From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  Leonhard living through that time, and knowing families who actually lost loved ones in the Towers, I can tell you that most of those stories about Muslims being treated badly were overblown. At the time my GP and my Dentist were Muslim - they had no problems. The fact is, backlash is not the problem, Islam is.
                  There is no doubt that there was a significant anti-Muslim backlash. Its been well documented. There's a lot of writers who recently sow doubt about that, but they simple don't have the facts on their side. I'd go so far as to say it hasn't died completely down again. We had similar issues in Denmark, where our government wanted insight as to which foreign exchange students were pursuing research or writing about nuclear physics. Something the universities simple refused to divulge. The systematic targeting of innocent Muslims for surveillance, some who simple forwarded emails about upcoming conventions on Islam is something your government has permitted a lot of. And following 9/11, you've shown no sign at all in reigning in the power you gave the NSA. There was all the nonsense about Obama being a secret Muslim, have you forgotten that? The majority of Muslims themselves report that there's been a lot more bias against them, and the evidence shows it: Hate crimes against Muslims went up after 9/11.

                  There was the insane anger and hatred on part of Americans regarding the building of a Muslim community center not far from ground zero. All logic and reason went out of the window in those discussions. If you want an example of pure Islamophobia, remember back to that. The US intelligence agency concluded it was a risk of radicalisation, not because of the prayer space that was to be built, but because of the anti-Muslim sentiments. That is, such things in themselves promote radicalisation, which is what some of the Muslims in Denmark working against radicalization keep warning about.

                  Then there's the Islamophobia that Muslims are out-breeding the Americans, and rendering the whites a minority. Something that the alt-righters tout a lot, even though just about all significant studies show nothing to the effect. Most of the population growths are still due to immigration.

                  Whether or not Wahhabi Islam tends to be destructive, and radicalization can take place. Which I don't dispute, and its a problem that needs to be addressed. I can't but defend an attempt to reassure the rest of the Islamic community that they're not to be antagonized. Which they shouldn't be.

                  I've seen plenty of denunciation on the Facebook forums I frequent. "Oh no, not another idiot taking the rest of us hostage." Someone wrote. And I know they're keeping on doing it, but its not exactly reported that much. Because in the end, sensible Muslims don't sell news. Newspapers these days rely a lot on sensational stories (perhaps they always have) and nothing sells like scandals, sex and fear.

                  In the light of all that, I thank God the UK media have enough sense to be hesitant regarding the nature of the attacker.

                  Or let me ask another question, what would a focus on Islam in general do in those articles?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                    There is no doubt that there was a significant anti-Muslim backlash. Its been well documented. There's a lot of writers who recently sow doubt about that, but they simple don't have the facts on their side. I'd go so far as to say it hasn't died completely down again. We had similar issues in Denmark, where our government wanted insight as to which foreign exchange students were pursuing research or writing about nuclear physics. Something the universities simple refused to divulge. The systematic targeting of innocent Muslims for surveillance, some who simple forwarded emails about upcoming conventions on Islam is something your government has permitted a lot of. And following 9/11, you've shown no sign at all in reigning in the power you gave the NSA. There was all the nonsense about Obama being a secret Muslim, have you forgotten that? The majority of Muslims themselves report that there's been a lot more bias against them, and the evidence shows it: Hate crimes against Muslims went up after 9/11.

                    There was the insane anger and hatred on part of Americans regarding the building of a Muslim community center not far from ground zero. All logic and reason went out of the window in those discussions. If you want an example of pure Islamophobia, remember back to that. The US intelligence agency concluded it was a risk of radicalisation, not because of the prayer space that was to be built, but because of the anti-Muslim sentiments. That is, such things in themselves promote radicalisation, which is what some of the Muslims in Denmark working against radicalization keep warning about.

                    Then there's the Islamophobia that Muslims are out-breeding the Americans, and rendering the whites a minority. Something that the alt-righters tout a lot, even though just about all significant studies show nothing to the effect. Most of the population growths are still due to immigration.

                    Whether or not Wahhabi Islam tends to be destructive, and radicalization can take place. Which I don't dispute, and its a problem that needs to be addressed. I can't but defend an attempt to reassure the rest of the Islamic community that they're not to be antagonized. Which they shouldn't be.

                    I've seen plenty of denunciation on the Facebook forums I frequent. "Oh no, not another idiot taking the rest of us hostage." Someone wrote. And I know they're keeping on doing it, but its not exactly reported that much. Because in the end, sensible Muslims don't sell news. Newspapers these days rely a lot on sensational stories (perhaps they always have) and nothing sells like scandals, sex and fear.

                    In the light of all that, I thank God the UK media have enough sense to be hesitant regarding the nature of the attacker.

                    Or let me ask another question, what would a focus on Islam in general do in those articles?

                    Leonhard, I'm not saying that there was no backlash just that some or even most were overblown. But government officials warning about backlash is nonsensical - that will not stop anyone intent on harming a Muslim. Never mind the fact that it is smuggling in the idea of moral equivalency, that what the so called innocent Muslims may experience after such an attack is somehow equal to the terrorist attack. Besides the fact that I am just sick of Islam. As many New Yorkers were with the Muslim community center built so close to ground zero - and I have no problem with that. You don't see that as a slap in the face - they did.
                    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                      There is no doubt that there was a significant anti-Muslim backlash. Its been well documented.
                      Even CAIR, which is well-known for grossly exaggerating the number of "anti-Muslim hate crimes" that take place, says there were all of 42 incidents in the year following 9/11. According to the FBI there were only 28 in 2000.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Even CAIR, which is well-known for grossly exaggerating the number of "anti-Muslim hate crimes" that take place, says there were all of 42 incidents in the year following 9/11. According to the FBI there were only 28 in 2000.
                        Given that six million people were left standing in the rubble of the WTC - the restraint was amazing.
                        Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
                          Oh Boy! Islamic Paradise sounds like just another day in Las Vegas!
                          It really does. Perpetual orgies and sex. Makes you wonder why the muslims are so set against such things in this life and condemn westerners for debauchery when their goal is to have all that and more after they die?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                            I'd like to see evidence that western men have targeted Muslim women as blowback.
                            In our culture targeting women and children is shameful.

                            I think the imam projected his priorities onto the west.
                            Attacking women makes good tactical sense. Assuming it wasn't just sexual frustration, the Manchester bomber killed off not just a bunch of little girls but also any kids they might have had. Because sperm is cheap and abundant it's usually the women who act as the bottleneck of fertility, and that already narrow Anglo bottleneck got a little narrower.
                            "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                            There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post


                              God please stop this so-called "religion of peace"
                              If there's an omnipotent god, he could have prevented it from starting in the first place. Just sayin'.

                              Originally posted by seer View Post
                              The fact is, backlash is not the problem, Islam is.
                              What's the solution?
                              Find my speling strange? I'm trying this out: Simplified Speling. Feel free to join me.

                              "Nature has placed mankind under the governance of two sovereign masters, pain and pleasure. It is for them alone to point out what we ought to do, as well as to determine what we shall do."-Jeremy Bentham

                              "We question all our beliefs, except for the ones that we really believe in, and those we never think to question."-Orson Scott Card

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by stfoskey15 View Post
                                If there's an omnipotent god, he could have prevented it from starting in the first place. Just sayin'.
                                Yeah but then where does he stop? If he starts preventing sin, we have no free will. Or it means he has to destroy everyone alive.

                                What's the solution?
                                Jesus and the gospel.

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