Pat Robertson: Muslims are the New Nazis

[Pilgrim]

snip pedantry...

Hey look! Cu is quoting scripture. He MUST be a Christian. Right? Right? Right?

[Cu Mhorrigan]

Never said I was one now...

[seanD]

Yeah, I know. Attachment 67250

Congressman revealed to be latent sociopath with no self control vs trailer trash getting beamed onto the Enterprise and probed. Clearly my priorities are the problem. Attachment 67251

That's pretty harsh isn't it? A Christian who violates Romans 2:1 has more problems than he knows. So you think a dude who has a sexual indiscretion and then naturally lies to cover it up is a sociopath? Are you judging this from a political position or a religious one?

[Darth Executor]

That's pretty harsh isn't it? A Christian who violates Romans 2:1 has more problems than he knows. So you think a dude who has a sexual indiscretion and then naturally lies to cover it up is a sociopath?

I think someone who would cheat on a partner has sociopathic tendencies at the very least. Whether he lies about doesn't really factor into that. But if you'd do that to the person closest to you, why wouldn't you do it to the faceless masses that you claim to represent?

Are you judging this from a political position or a religious one?

Both. It is wrong on a religious level, but that's largely between him and God and possibly his synagogue (I believe he's Jewish, but not particularly religious). On a political level though, I don't want leaders who can't keep themselves from hurting their loved ones because there's very little such a person wouldn't do to hurt people he doesn't even know should the temptation arise.

[seanD]

I think someone who would cheat on a partner has sociopathic tendencies at the very least. Whether he lies about doesn't really factor into that. But if you'd do that to the person closest to you, why wouldn't you do it to the faceless masses that you claim to represent?


Both. It is wrong on a religious level, but that's largely between him and God and possibly his synagogue (I believe he's Jewish, but not particularly religious). On a political level though, I don't want leaders who can't keep themselves from hurting their loved ones because there's very little such a person wouldn't do to hurt people he doesn't even know should the temptation arise.

But once the indiscretion breaks in the news, we already know about it because it becomes sensationalized and the top story over everything else, so posting a thread here is unnecessary, thus is pretty much just gossiping which gets into the realm of judgementalism, sort of like what happened in John 8. You're also asking for perfection, something that our theology affirms is not possible. But from a political angle, since I'm sure most politicians have ideologies you disagree with, wouldn't sexual indiscretion pretty much narrow down the political field for you to choose from even more?

[Darth Executor]

But once the indiscretion breaks in the news, we already know about it because it becomes sensationalized and the top story over everything else, so posting a thread here is unnecessary

I couldn't care less if you find it unnecessary. I am posting it here because I like to discuss current events, and this is a current event. In fact it is good that scandals like these receive as much publicity as possible. Public humiliation is still a considerably lighter sentence than he would have gotten under Moses. If you consider this gossip, that's your problem, not mine.

You're also asking for perfection, something that our theology affirms is not possible.

I am not asking for perfection. Adultery was punished by death in the OT. Somehow the jews managed to survive. The choices are not "perfection" and "cheating on your spouse". I expect a basic level of decency from everybody, but especially from people who fancy themselves leaders.

But from a political angle, since I'm sure most politicians have ideologies you disagree with, wouldn't sexual indiscretion pretty much narrow down the political field for you to choose from even more?

Concerns like these are only relevant to a point. If the candidates were Stalin, Hitler and Mao I wouldn't set mass murder aside as an issue just because it narrows the field.