Muhammed: A mercy to the World.

[ahmadj3]

Bismillahir Rahmanir Raheem

In this post I wanted to present the Prophet (sws) in a different light than what we normally see on this forum, and represented in today's society amongst non Muslims. As a Muslim who comes here in an attempt to share the message of Islam with non Muslims, it's somewhat alarming to see how little so called Christian 'scholars' know about Islam, the Qur'aan, and Muhammed (sws). A few may be able to read, and understand Arabic, but as I have said many times before that isn't the only requirenment of people seeking to gain more knowledge about Qur'aan, and Islam. Thier lack of knowledge of such sciences, like Usool-i- fiqh, and other sciences of Qur'aan, and Sunnah force them to interpret Islam, and the Qur'aan in a Christian worldview. However, the Qur'aan is not a Christian scripture in the sense that it is upon everything Christians believe. So we find many misconceptions dating back to medieval times either coming back into vogue, are remaining the classical view of even today's Christian critic. For example, the idea that Muhammed was a former Christian, and created a deviant religion from what he knew about Christianity. This isn't based on any factual information, but rather from conjecture, because in truth they couldn't refute the truth of Qur'an, so they simply decided to attack the personality of Muhammed (sws).
While everyone has an opinion about who they think Muhammed was, and attempt to present that opinion as fact, the fact is there is even more authentic proof about who Muhammed was that is contrary to what Islamophobes present about him (sws). So I will attempt to present the Prophet (sws) from a different lens, if you will. No doubt, there will be many who will say my views of who Muhammed is, are wrong, and they posses the truth about Muhammed (sws). My job is not to convert people, but rather to show why Muslims love Rasulullah (sws), and why we follow him (sws). May Allah accept this from me, and may He (swt) guide us all. Amin.

Who was Muhammed (sws)? What was he like as a child? A young adult? A grown man of 40? In order to gain a clear understanding of who a person is, we shouldn't rely on who that person says he was, but what those who knew him best say about him, even those who were enemies to him. In regards to Muhammed, from his companions (before and after Islam), and even some of his staunchest enemies attested to his honesty, kindness, and generosity amongest people. How did this man, Muhammed (sws) deal with the opposition to the message he brought? When he went to a town called Taif, and attempted to call the people to Islam, they ran him out of the town, stoning him. They abused him, but did he come back with an army to force them? No, he merely prayed for them. Many Islamophobes concentrate on battles, and wars that the early Muslim nation fought. However, what about how he dealt with people off the battle field. How did he deal with children in the Muslim community? How did he deal with his wives, and his own children? I think this are also issues people should look into about what kind of person was Muhammed (sws). I encourage everyone to look into these aspects of Muhammed's life, and not just focus one area of his life as all there is to him.

[Bowman]

You seem to be confusing the islamic 'Muhammad' with the Koranic 'Muhammad', brother...

[ahmadj3]

No, for you, there may be a Qur'anic, and Islamic Muhammed. That's because you would rather concentrate, twist, and distort certain aspects of the Prophet's life for your own agenda. There's a hadith in sahih bukhari, narrated by Aaisha (RA), where she was asked how the Prophet (sws) was with his family at home. She (RA) told them, " Don't you read the Qur'an, his character was like that of the Qur'an." So from this statement from a person who knew Rasulullah best. His own wife, we find that there was no difference between Muhammeds' character, and the Qur'an.

[Bowman]

No, for you, there may be a Qur'anic, and Islamic Muhammed. That's because you would rather concentrate, twist, and distort certain aspects of the Prophet's life for your own agenda. There's a hadith in sahih bukhari, narrated by Aaisha (RA), where she was asked how the Prophet (sws) was with his family at home. She (RA) told them, " Don't you read the Qur'an, his character was like that of the Qur'an." So from this statement from a person who knew Rasulullah best. His own wife, we find that there was no difference between Muhammeds' character, and the Qur'an.

All of the latest research (including my own) into the term 'Muhammad' (i.e. praised one) points towards the term being used as an epithet for the Biblical Jesus Christ.

The oldest islamic shrine, the Dome on the Rock, applies the term 'Muhammad' to the Biblical Jesus Christ long before the Koran came into being.

[One Bad Pig]

Why are you trying to communicate the truth about Muhammed in English if we need to be able to read and understand Arabic in order to receive the truth?

[ahmadj3]

it's true that not all of the Qur'an can be fully understood in any other language, and knowledge of Arabic is needed. However, a person can get to know the basics of Islam, and who Muhammed was in thier own native language.

[Bill the Cat]

Muhammed denied the divinity of Jesus Christ. That's all I need to know.

[ahmadj3]

The problem with that is even some Chrisitans deny that also.

[Bill the Cat]

The problem with that is even some Chrisitans deny that also.

No they don't. Those CLAIMING to be Christians may, but they can not be Christians and deny Jesus' deity.

[ahmadj3]

Ok, so tell me, where in the Bible, does Jesus, himself tell anyone, or teach that he is God?

No they don't. Those CLAIMING to be Christians may, but they can not be Christians and deny Jesus' deity.

[Bill the Cat]

Ok, so tell me, where in the Bible, does Jesus, himself tell anyone, or teach that he is God?

Joh 10:33 The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God."

Joh 5:18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

[ahmadj3]

Ok, I asked you, where in the Bible, does Jesus say, in his supposedly 'own words' that he is God? You didn't answer that, what you did is give me a few verses that didn't qualify as a satisfactory answer. For your answer you quoted John 10:33, and John 5:18. Let's take a look at those a little closer. The first one, John 10:33 is right about one thing. There were people amongst the Jews that thought, or accused Jesus of saying he was divine, or God. However it's not what Jesus said. Look at what Jesus says after that accusation is made," Is it not written in your law, 'I (God) said you are gods'? If He (God) called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say you of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, thou blaspheme because I said I am the son of God."Jesus called himself the son of God, however that title was not exclusive to him alone, many other great people of the past in the bible have been given the same title, for example King David. It was a common term used to convey a certain characteristic on another person. So the term 'son of God', doesn't mean a literal son, but rather a godly person. The second quote you provided, John 5:18, still isn't what Jesus said about himself, but rather the author further narrating the story. Now, the question is again, where does Jesus, himself specifically say he is God?

[Bill the Cat]

Ok, I asked you, where in the Bible, does Jesus say, in his supposedly 'own words' that he is God? You didn't answer that, what you did is give me a few verses that didn't qualify as a satisfactory answer. For your answer you quoted John 10:33, and John 5:18. Let's take a look at those a little closer. The first one, John 10:33 is right about one thing. There were people amongst the Jews that thought, or accused Jesus of saying he was divine, or God. However it's not what Jesus said. Look at what Jesus says after that accusation is made," Is it not written in your law, 'I (God) said you are gods'? If He (God) called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say you of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, thou blaspheme because I said I am the son of God."Jesus called himself the son of God, however that title was not exclusive to him alone, many other great people of the past in the bible have been given the same title, for example King David. It was a common term used to convey a certain characteristic on another person. So the term 'son of God', doesn't mean a literal son, but rather a godly person.

What spin!! The Torah did not allow stoning someone for claiming to be a Godly person. You show utter ignorance of Jewish law.

The second quote you provided, John 5:18, still isn't what Jesus said about himself, but rather the author further narrating the story.

And John was the author declaring what he knew to be true.

Now, the question is again, where does Jesus, himself specifically say he is God?

Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
Joh 8:59 Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple.

What law did Jesus break here that allowed the Jews to stone Him? I'd like a particular verse, not empty bluster.

[ahmadj3]

I never said I was a Jewish scholar, so yes there is somethings about Jewish law I don't know. Nor did I say that's the reason why the Jews wanted to stone Jesus. They were quite clear in the reason they wanted to stone him. What I'm saying is the verses we are discussing don't show Jesus claiming divinity, rather they show Jesus being misunderstood in what he was saying. He (Jesus) said, " Before Abraham was I am." What does that mean? If he were saying he was God, wouldn't the verse be more fully understood in this way, " Before Abraham there was I.", or, " Before Abraham was God, and I am God...". It isn't even a proper sentence! Anyway, your entire arguement isn't built around around what Jesus actually said, but the reaction of the Jews that heard him, who were already against him, and seeking a reason to stone him anyway. You forgot to mention Jesus's reply to them after they accused him of making himself divine. If Jesus was claiming divinity, why did he seek to correct them? Did he change his mind after it was said, and they wanted to stone him?

What spin!! The Torah did not allow stoning someone for claiming to be a Godly person. You show utter ignorance of Jewish law.



And John was the author declaring what he knew to be true.




Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
Joh 8:59 Therefore they picked up stones to throw at Him, but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple.

What law did Jesus break here that allowed the Jews to stone Him? I'd like a particular verse, not empty bluster.

[Bowman]

Now, the question is again, where does Jesus, himself specifically say he is God?

ο νικων κληρονομησει ταυτα και εσομαι αυτω θεος και αυτος εσται μοι υιος

o nikōn klēronomēsei tauta kai esomai autō theos kai autos estai moi uios

The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me. (Rev 21.7)




Observe that “Theos” is in the nominative case, indicating that Jesus is the subject of the verb “esomai” establishing Him as God.

Further, observe that Jesus establishes that His deity is directly interchangeable with the Father, making the ones overcoming, the sons to Him.