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  • #16
    Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
    Bill, are you a white supremacist?
    ?
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post
      ?
      "Cultural Marxism" is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. It posits that libs and Jews are deliberately trying to destroy western civilisation.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        My favorite is the line "it has been reported by such and so", as if that gives a story credibility in and of itself. Sometimes they don't even bother giving the source and just say "it has been reported".
        You mean like Trump's "everybody says" or "everybody knows"? The difference is that the MSM back up their stories with evidence, whereas Trump, the pathological liar, doesn't.
        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          You mean like Trump's "everybody says" or "everybody knows"? The difference is that the MSM back up their stories with evidence, whereas Trump, the pathological liar, doesn't.
          Tassman thinks the MSM report the truth, fairly and objectively.
          ...>>> Witty remark or snarky quote of another poster goes here <<<...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
            Tassman thinks the MSM report the truth, fairly and objectively.
            The alternative is accepting Trump's version of the truth without question which is not on for anyone in government, Trump least of all. Furthermore, the 1st Amendment provides for the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press,
            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              "Cultural Marxism" is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. It posits that libs and Jews are deliberately trying to destroy western civilisation.
              "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

              There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                "Cultural Marxism" is a white supremacist conspiracy theory. It posits that libs and Jews are deliberately trying to destroy western civilisation.
                I'd quibble over the word deliberately.
                It postulates entirely too much self awareness.
                Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                  I'd quibble over the word deliberately.
                  It postulates entirely too much self awareness.
                  That's the conspiracy-theory part of it, and what makes it 'cultural marxism'. Whereas the idea that liberal ideas are bad and unhelpful and might lead down some sort of catastrophic slippery slope into social anarchy is just standard conservativism.
                  "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                  "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                  "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                    That's the conspiracy-theory part of it, and what makes it 'cultural marxism'. Whereas the idea that liberal ideas are bad and unhelpful and might lead down some sort of catastrophic slippery slope into social anarchy is just standard conservativism.
                    I don't think it would be unfair to claim much of liberalism is a rejection of the ideas/norms/order that made Western Civilization strong.
                    I'm not saying that Western Civilization isn't in need of improvement but liberalism doesn't seem to seek improvement but rather a replacement.

                    A short hand example of this would be the destruction of the nuclear family.
                    1: The redefinition of marriage.
                    2: The abandonment of sexual morals.
                    3: The subversion of male/female roles.
                    4: The devaluation of children.

                    I recognize that you'd see many of those changes as improvements; however, nature is weighing in on it and the preliminary results aren't good.
                    Some find that distressing but I've started to find it amusing - we'll simply be replaced by people groups who are conservative.
                    I'm okay with that.
                    Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post
                      I don't think it would be unfair to claim much of liberalism is a rejection of the ideas/norms/order that made Western Civilization strong.
                      I see liberalism in general as having created Western civilization: It's the difference between the 14th century and the 21st. Across those centuries, liberalism pushed for social freedoms and rights and science. It took us from a near-feudal hierarchical society of ignorance, through the enlightenment, and the development of democracy, and giving rights to women, and abolishing slavery, and valuing knowledge and science, and giving rights to black people, and inventing new technologies that have changed our world.

                      I'm not saying that Western Civilization isn't in need of improvement but liberalism doesn't seem to seek improvement but rather a replacement.
                      I disagree entirely. Liberalism has always been about improvement and optimization.

                      A short hand example of this would be the destruction of the nuclear family.
                      LOL. The 'nuclear family' was an early-20th century American invention. Western societies over the last several hundred years have had various different family structures.

                      1: The redefinition of marriage.
                      Marriage was redefined when the King of England in the 16th century decided he was going to get a divorce regardless of what the Church said, and so split the English church off from the Roman Catholic church so that divorce could be a thing. It happened again in the 20th century when basically all Western nations said that yes, divorce could be a thing. Marriage changed in the 18th-20th centuries when Western nations decided marriages were permitted to be interracial.

                      2: The abandonment of sexual morals.
                      Sexual morals have always been changing over time, they haven't simply been 'abandoned'. You've heard of 'Victorian' morality? Although, a friend who's doing his PhD in English literature assures me that sexual morals in the Victorian era were actually very loose and there was nothing 'Victorian' about them.

                      3: The subversion of male/female roles.
                      I agree with you on this one. The hierarchical society of the semi-feudal era had a very strong gender hierarchy and strict gender roles. Liberalism has, over the centuries, been very clear in trying to promote equality for women - that they should be allowed to be educated, allowed to vote, allowed to be elected to government, allowed to work full time, allowed to work in careers of their choosing. Liberalism has consistently pushed for equal opportunity.

                      4: The devaluation of children.
                      Um...?!

                      Some find that distressing but I've started to find it amusing - we'll simply be replaced by people groups who are conservative.
                      Seems unlikely. As a people group becomes technologically advanced it becomes liberal. Basically if people are worried about day to day survival in a society they tend to conservativism which runs on threat-based thinking, but if their survival needs are being met and they're not in fear of imminent danger the people in the society switch over to optimization-based thinking and try to maximize well-being and happiness and freedom in their society. I recommend the book Culture Matters: How Values Shape Human Progress for a good discussion of the topic by a group of cultural anthropologists.
                      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                      "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                      "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        Starlight,
                        I think you've confused the marks of a prosperous society with the marks of liberalism.
                        I'm talking about something a bit more fundamental - something that has alarmed world leaders.

                        Liberalism's devaluing of the family unit is quickly leading to a population crisis(1) of sorts.
                        Russia: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20....matthewweaver
                        Finland/Denmark/Japan/France: https://qz.com/200728/what-countries...ving-children/

                        It isn't surprising that when you teach a population that having kids makes them 'breeders' and that a woman's place is in the boardroom and that the zenith for any man or woman is the adoption of technology over biology that the population is going to drop off at a precipitous rate. Let me add a footnote here: Some use the declining white population as a rallying call for racism. I do not support that notion at all. I don't see the survival of whites as an imperative nor do I believe that civilization will be any less civilization without whites. That is hogwash. The problem, if one exists, would be culture.

                        Example

                        Island A: Take 100 people, put them on an island, teach them this:
                        1: Teach young men to marry other young men.
                        2: Teach women that they don't need men.
                        3: Teach young people to kill the occasional 'accident'.
                        4: In the event a child is born his 'father' will be a rotating cast of clowns.
                        5: Repeat (for a generation at most)

                        Island B: Take 100 people, put them on an island, teach them this:
                        1: One man, one woman for life.
                        2: Children are a blessing and are to be protected and nurtured.
                        3: Family is all.

                        Conclusion:
                        In about 50 years the residents of Island B are going to overrun Island A.
                        It is just math/biology and there isn't any way to think yourself out of it.
                        It is actually happening on the world stage right now (see links above).

                        This is one reason why I no longer get too terribly upset over liberalism.
                        Once I realized that it literally wipes itself out (as all lies do) it no longer seemed so threatening.
                        Family values, by definition, will live on to the next generation - it is just biology.



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                        1: It is a crisis if you think Western Civilization is tied to white people. I'm quickly growing indifferent to both.
                        Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          The alternative is accepting Trump's version of the truth without question which is not on for anyone in government, Trump least of all. Furthermore, the 1st Amendment provides for the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press,
                          The alternative to trusting the MSM is accepting whatever Trump says without question?

                          I dunno, I seem to be doing ok at distrusting both.
                          Last edited by Zymologist; 05-26-2017, 09:26 AM.
                          I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                            The alternative to trusting the MSM is accepting whatever Trump says without question?

                            I dunno, I seem to be doing ok at distrusting both.
                            The skeptic says that you must pick one.
                            You aren't allowed to stray off the reservation and think for yourself.

                            You. Must. Conform. To. The. Predefined. Containers.
                            Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Psychic Missile View Post
                              Bill, are you a white supremacist?
                              No. I just think these comments are pretty accurate on what a good chunk of progressives are doing.
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                                Marriage was redefined when the King of England in the 16th century decided he was going to get a divorce regardless of what the Church said, and so split the English church off from the Roman Catholic church so that divorce could be a thing.
                                That's not a redefinition of marriage.

                                It happened again in the 20th century when basically all Western nations said that yes, divorce could be a thing. Marriage changed in the 18th-20th centuries when Western nations decided marriages were permitted to be interracial.
                                Actually banning interracial marriages was the original change, allowing interracial marriage was just a return to the original definition, and even that wasn't a wholesale redefinition like Edited by a Moderator marriage is.

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                                Last edited by Jedidiah; 05-26-2017, 02:27 PM.
                                "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                                There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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