There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

[Vansmack51]

Naa, we just don't like people insulting the LORD or His people. Sometimes we just get a little King David in us.

"Archaeological data have now definitely confirmed that the empire of David and Solomon never existed." - Biblical Archaeological Revue 31, no. 1 (January/February 2005): 16-17

Do you have any evidence that King David actually existed?

[Zguy28]

"Archaeological data have now definitely confirmed that the empire of David and Solomon never existed." - Biblical Archaeological Revue 31, no. 1 (January/February 2005): 16-17

Do you have any evidence that King David actually existed?

Sure.

Ruth
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1 & 2 Kings
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[Rational Gaze]

Do you have any evidence that King David actually existed?

There are currently three extra-biblical references to King David. An Old Aramaic stela from Tell Dan, dated to the 840s BC, mentions the “house of David” and, in the context, directly implies the existence of a Davidic dynasty. A second such reference comes to us from the stela of Mesha, king of Moab, and is dated to a similar time. Finally, a third reference comes to us from the Egyptian Pharaoh, Shoshenq I.

[Doug Shaver]

Is everybody who disagrees with you about anything just scared of something? Or do you think religion is the only thing that can scare people into disagreeing with you?

Politicians use fear to further the redneck agenda in this country. But just think for a moment about how frightend you are that the fact that Jesus Christ never even existed is rapidly becoming common knowledge.

You didn't answer my question. Are you hoping to change the subject?

[Tassman]

Sure.

Ruth
1 & 2 Samuel
1 & 2 Kings
1 & 2 Chronicles
Ezra
Nehemiah
Psalms
Proverbs
Ecclesiastes
Song of Solomon
Isaiah
Jeremiah
Ezekiel
Hosea
Amos
Zechariah
Matthew
Mark
Luke
John
Acts of Apostles
Romans
2 Timothy
Hebrews
Revelation

So you know that the biblical account of King David and his conquest of Jerusalem must be true and accurate because the biblical account says so. Well, I’m convinced.

In fact “the biblical account of the capture of the city is the only one we have, and in the opinion of most modern scholars, the Bible is not an entirely reliable historical document. Corroborating evidence is required, and some indeed exists; but it is not conclusive. When all the available information has been assembled, the most that can be said is that there was probably an Israelite ruler called David, who made Jerusalem his capital sometime in the tenth century bce…”

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive...0and%20Reality

[lilpixieofterror]

We are biological organisms not magical bogey entities. This argument is as stupid as they get. Jesus Christ and Paul never existed. They are inventions of the Church as I proved about 200 times so far right on this thread.

And thus smackedbythevanofscholarship shows the world why he's a waste of time debating with.

[lilpixieofterror]

I have a friend who works at a hospice. She says that the Christians always go out kicking and screaming scared out of their minds. Contrasting that the unbelievers usually die peacefully. So it looks like all these escapist and life avoidance fantasies of Christianity ain't worth crap doesn't it? ROFL!

That must be why my great aunt and grandmother told us on their death beds not to cry for them, for they will be at peace soon. Its comments like these that make you out to be a troll instead of an honest seeker of the truth and thus the reason I treat you as such.

[Rational Gaze]

So you know that the biblical account of King David and his conquest of Jerusalem must be true and accurate because the biblical account says so.

I think he was being facetious.

[JimL]

Naa, we just don't like people insulting the LORD or His people. Sometimes we just get a little King David in us.

1 Samuel 17:41-47 WEB
41 The Philistine came on and drew near to David; and the man who bore the shield went before him. 42 When the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him; for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and withal of a fair face. 43 The Philistine said to David, “Am I a dog, that you come to me with sticks?” The Philistine cursed David by his gods. 44 The Philistine said to David, “Come to me, and I will give your flesh to the birds of the sky, and to the animals of the field.”
45 Then David said to the Philistine, “You come to me with a sword, and with a spear, and with a javelin: but I come to you in the name of Yahweh of Armies, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. 46 Today, Yahweh will deliver you into my hand. I will strike you, and take your head from off you. I will give the dead bodies of the army of the Philistines this day to the birds of the sky, and to the wild animals of the earth; that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel, 47 and that all this assembly may know that Yahweh doesn’t save with sword and spear: for the battle is Yahweh’s, and he will give you into our hand.”

Yes, and this is what the conservative establishment, who couldn't give a hoot about your God or your people know about you. They know how to push your buttons in a way that gets you to ignore the travesty that they themselves have in store for you and your families once you give them the power to do so.

[Doug Shaver]

"Archaeological data have now definitely confirmed that the empire of David and Solomon never existed." - Biblical Archaeological Revue 31, no. 1 (January/February 2005): 16-17

Do you have any evidence that King David actually existed?

The nonexistence of a Davidic empire does not entail the nonexistence of David.

Aside from a presupposition that there can be no truth in any religious text, do you have any evidence for David's nonexistence?

[bertatberts]

do you have any evidence for David's nonexistence?

Wow! just Wow! Are you sure you're not a theist. I seem to have heard this argument before! In regard to some-THING else, I wonder who or what! It was.
You do realise being the ?atheist you are? that it is nonsensical to demand proof of non-existence.

[Doug Shaver]

do you have any evidence for David's nonexistence?

Wow! just Wow! Are you sure you're not a theist.

Yes. Are you sure you know what an atheist is? It has nothing to do with believing in the historicity of any man.

You do realise being the ?atheist you are? that it is nonsensical to demand proof of non-existence.

Being the philosopher that I am, I realize that it makes perfect sense to ask for proof of any assertion. If you assert the nonexistence of any X, then that is what you need to prove.

(And before you go off on some tangent about what can be proven, I don't mean necessarily a deductive proof. For any historical claim, an inductive proof is quite sufficient.)

[Rational Gaze]

Did bertatberts just pull the "you're not a real atheist" card? Against Doug Shaver? Really? Wow.

[MaxVel]

So you know that the biblical account of King David and his conquest of Jerusalem must be true and accurate because the biblical account says so.

I think he was being facetious.

No, actually Tassman has missed the point entirely. VSmack asked:

"Archaeological data have now definitely confirmed that the empire of David and Solomon never existed." - Biblical Archaeological Revue 31, no. 1 (January/February 2005): 16-17

Do you have any evidence that King David actually existed?

{Underlining added}

Zguy28 replied with a list of historical documents that mention David and Solomon, and their kingdoms, which are evidence that they existed. They may not prove that they existed, but they are evidence.

[Rational Gaze]

No, actually Tassman has missed the point entirely.

Indubitably.

They may not prove that they existed, but they are evidence.

Indeed. This is one mistake which atheists in particular seem to particularly susceptible too. People seem have totally inconsistent (not to mention entirely colloquial and ad hoc) definitions that they routinely change when it suits them. What makes it ironic is when people demand the same standard from them, and then they whine about it. Consistency is a harsh mistress apparently.