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June 12th 2011, 04:15 AM #106
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Crab Battle
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Words uttered to incite an all in brawl. Whoever says the words 'Crab Battle' will usually be spear tackled to the ground by anyone else present, and all parties will then engage in a fight to the death.
Reality untouchable, transparent, invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision. Existence taken for granted, absolute. Possessed, owned, controlled by the common sense-infected rational gaze, onward forever we walk among the ignorant. Never stray from the common lines.
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June 12th 2011, 04:17 AM #107
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Crab Battle
noun
Words uttered to incite an all in brawl. Whoever says the words 'Crab Battle' will usually be spear tackled to the ground by anyone else present, and all parties will then engage in a fight to the death.
Reality untouchable, transparent, invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision. Existence taken for granted, absolute. Possessed, owned, controlled by the common sense-infected rational gaze, onward forever we walk among the ignorant. Never stray from the common lines.
My blog . My book. My YouTube channel.
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June 12th 2011, 04:23 AM #108
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
I'm not so think as you dumb I am...
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June 12th 2011, 04:41 AM #109
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June 12th 2011, 04:44 AM #110
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Yeah, MaxVel! I also want to know if you have enough backbone to counter Why didn't God didn't have to marry Mary ?! Refute it right here, if you will! Is your back amputated ?
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In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion." (Pastor Greg Boyd.)
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June 12th 2011, 04:51 AM #111
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June 12th 2011, 05:08 AM #112
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Um... calling those two threads 'arguments' against God is like saying 'So your grand-daddy was a chimpanzee, then?' is an argument against evolution.
That someone would take them seriously as an argument against God shows that they are (currently) incapable of simple logic and understanding anything that has any degree of sophistication. No refutation needed as no argument worth the name has been made.
Originally posted by bertatberts
Not much better, from what I can see.
Edit to add: Looking at your OP, um... Gee. The Iliad is a valid comparison to the gospels? Really??
You give me the strong impression that you're skimming lightly over things, looking mainly at the skeptical writers, avoiding the strongest Christian responses, and going with the conclusions that fit your already decided outcome. I could be wrong, of course...Last edited by MaxVel; June 12th 2011 at 05:13 AM.
I'm not so think as you dumb I am...
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June 12th 2011, 05:09 AM #113
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Crab Battle
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Words uttered to incite an all in brawl. Whoever says the words 'Crab Battle' will usually be spear tackled to the ground by anyone else present, and all parties will then engage in a fight to the death.
Reality untouchable, transparent, invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision. Existence taken for granted, absolute. Possessed, owned, controlled by the common sense-infected rational gaze, onward forever we walk among the ignorant. Never stray from the common lines.
My blog . My book. My YouTube channel.
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June 12th 2011, 05:52 AM #114
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Yes that's it, lol, Encore! Encore!
What would be the benefit of refuting them again, it is a waste of time and effort, bring something new to the table, Please.
If you think you're so right, put your money where your mouth is and take it to, http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php#c1 instead of this group comfort blanket. Have some backbone man.
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June 12th 2011, 07:11 AM #115
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Marshall Brain. He is really an enigma. He's accomplished and knowledeable on a number of topics that are useful and worthy, but then there are his stand out websites: Why won't God heal Amputees? and God is Imaginary. He reads on Wiki as a nice ordinary fellow who is going about doing some worthy and important things, but Christianity he wants to end. He wants to organize it's demise, ASAP. Divergent...passion.
Why is he so resentful towards Christianity? Why is he trying to put an immediate stop to it ? A real stop.
I don't get it. Very strange.
What happened to him? This strong desire doesn't just spring up out of nowhere. What are the personal roots of it for him, I wonder (?)
Look at the Join Us link on "God is Imaginary." ...Look at the Comics section there. .....Hm. Yeah. The reasonable and helpful attitude he seems to have and exhibit on a number of good or at least neutral other things he working on doing for folks takes a selfish detour in these two sites, with surprising unexpected bitterness showing itself. He becomes someone else.
He's not just a run-of-the-mill naturalist. No. This is different. A red hot cause.
What are his reasons? The aim is undertaken with such urgency and framed by anger so much that this desire of his to end Christianity must be motivated by some things that happened personally [to] hurt Brian Brain in his past.
These two comics, which are from the "God is Imaginary" site, do illustrate Mr. Brain's website's two headliner points of attack, I think:
In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion." (Pastor Greg Boyd.)
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June 12th 2011, 09:52 AM #116
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Are the Vedas actually History or mystery, is the Qu'ran actually history or mystery, the point is without evidence none of them can be regarded as history, just mystery, that may have a little historical truth in them.
What is the difference between the harpi's and centaurs in the Iliad and the cockatrice and flying serpent's in the bible, Why should one book get more regard than the other.
I been doing this for some years, I'm sorry there has not been anything new brought to the table, and no I don't skim I check and research.
Why do you thing that even religious scholars call it a faith. because it is an apt name. There is no evidence for any of it.
I dare say the same can be said about you, but then there's the theism.
Christianity is the dominant religion on this planet, and especially dominant in America.
so what do you expect him to debunk, Also it doesn't say in any other holy book other than the bible "ask and you shall receive". Which is a lie.
Being lied to and indoctrinated as a child I would hasten to guess. a lot of non-believers are people who have reverted back to the norm, we are all tabula raza ( a blank slate) at the beginning.
I can only assume that if you say suddenly realised that all that you believed was a lie, and that your parents, friends, elders, etc, all lied to you forcing to endure church, calling you sinful, etc, I can empathise with him if that was the case. I'm surprise you can't.
What would you feel like.
I was lucky I was born into a family of non-believer, so was never forced to follow a religion.
Good aren't they.Last edited by bertatberts; June 12th 2011 at 10:04 AM.
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June 12th 2011, 10:26 AM #117
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Simple things please simple minds.

You have yet to refute anything, now, put your money where your mouth is and bring something new to the table.
In other words, you've been soundly beaten, don't have anything to respond with • Edited by a Moderator • admit it.
Last edited by Littlejoe; June 21st 2011 at 09:44 AM.
Crab Battle
noun
Words uttered to incite an all in brawl. Whoever says the words 'Crab Battle' will usually be spear tackled to the ground by anyone else present, and all parties will then engage in a fight to the death.
Reality untouchable, transparent, invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision. Existence taken for granted, absolute. Possessed, owned, controlled by the common sense-infected rational gaze, onward forever we walk among the ignorant. Never stray from the common lines.
My blog . My book. My YouTube channel.
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June 12th 2011, 10:40 AM #118
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June 12th 2011, 10:43 AM #119
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Crab Battle
noun
Words uttered to incite an all in brawl. Whoever says the words 'Crab Battle' will usually be spear tackled to the ground by anyone else present, and all parties will then engage in a fight to the death.
Reality untouchable, transparent, invisible to our fixed, restricted fields of vision. Existence taken for granted, absolute. Possessed, owned, controlled by the common sense-infected rational gaze, onward forever we walk among the ignorant. Never stray from the common lines.
My blog . My book. My YouTube channel.
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June 12th 2011, 10:44 AM #120
Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus
Always strive to keep an open mind – but not so open that your brains fall out!Still afeared of & dodging The PINTM
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