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      These type of replies say more about you than they do me.
      Yup, it says I'm not a pseudo-intellectual know-nothing such as yourself.
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      there really isn't any point refute that which has already been refuted.
      So, why don't you refute them then? Oh, because you can't.
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      oh god, please don't tell me he made a plug for Why Won't God Heal Amputees.
      Out of curiosity I had a quick look at the forums over there.

      Pretty painful. The 'Bible Contradictions' forum is graced with such threads as 'Why is there no table of contents or index in the Bible?' and 'Why didn't God have to marry Mary?'.
      I'm not so think as you dumb I am...

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      Quote Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
      Out of curiosity I had a quick look at the forums over there.

      Pretty painful. The 'Bible Contradictions' forum is graced with such threads as 'Why is there no table of contents or index in the Bible?' and 'Why didn't God have to marry Mary?'.
      However do you have the backbone to counter those arguments. Or are you a member that has already posted a refutation, I've not seen your name so I'll go with the former.
      Oh incidentally try "General religious discussion".

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      Yeah, MaxVel! I also want to know if you have enough backbone to counter Why didn't God didn't have to marry Mary ?! Refute it right here, if you will! Is your back amputated ?


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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
      (Pastor Greg Boyd.)

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      Quote Originally posted by Rational Gaze View Post
      Yup, it says I'm not a pseudo-intellectual know-nothing such as yourself.
      Lol, and all that from hurling insults, Wow you are adaptable. Encore! Encore!
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      So, why don't you refute them then?
      Put something up that hasn't already been refuted and I will.

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      Quote Originally posted by bertatberts View Post
      However do you have the backbone to counter those arguments.
      Um... calling those two threads 'arguments' against God is like saying 'So your grand-daddy was a chimpanzee, then?' is an argument against evolution.

      That someone would take them seriously as an argument against God shows that they are (currently) incapable of simple logic and understanding anything that has any degree of sophistication. No refutation needed as no argument worth the name has been made.


      Quote Originally posted by bertatberts
      Or are you a member that has already posted a refutation, I've not seen your name so I'll go with the former.
      Oh incidentally try "General religious discussion".

      Not much better, from what I can see.

      Edit to add: Looking at your OP, um... Gee. The Iliad is a valid comparison to the gospels? Really??

      You give me the strong impression that you're skimming lightly over things, looking mainly at the skeptical writers, avoiding the strongest Christian responses, and going with the conclusions that fit your already decided outcome. I could be wrong, of course...
      Last edited by MaxVel; June 12th 2011 at 05:13 AM.
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      Quote Originally posted by bertatberts View Post
      Lol, and all that from hurling insults, Wow you are adaptable. Encore! Encore!
      As opposed to you, who is only capable of repeating the same old crap, over and over again.

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      Put something up that hasn't already been refuted and I will.
      I already have. You have yet to refute them. Probably because you lack the mental faculties and researching capability to do so.
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      Quote Originally posted by Rational Gaze View Post
      As opposed to you, who is only capable of repeating the same old crap, over and over again.
      Yes that's it, lol, Encore! Encore!
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      I already have. You have yet to refute them. Probably because you lack the mental faculties and researching capability to do so.
      What would be the benefit of refuting them again, it is a waste of time and effort, bring something new to the table, Please.
      If you think you're so right, put your money where your mouth is and take it to, http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php#c1 instead of this group comfort blanket. Have some backbone man.

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      Quote Originally posted by bertatberts View Post
      Yes that's it, lol, Encore! Encore!
      What would be the benefit of refuting them again, it is a waste of time and effort, bring something new to the table, Please.
      If you think you're so right, put your money where your mouth is and take it to, http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php#c1 instead of this group comfort blanket. Have some backbone man.
      Marshall Brain. He is really an enigma. He's accomplished and knowledeable on a number of topics that are useful and worthy, but then there are his stand out websites: Why won't God heal Amputees? and God is Imaginary. He reads on Wiki as a nice ordinary fellow who is going about doing some worthy and important things, but Christianity he wants to end. He wants to organize it's demise, ASAP. Divergent...passion.

      Why is he so resentful towards Christianity? Why is he trying to put an immediate stop to it ? A real stop.

      I don't get it. Very strange.

      What happened to him? This strong desire doesn't just spring up out of nowhere. What are the personal roots of it for him, I wonder (?)

      Look at the Join Us link on "God is Imaginary." ...Look at the Comics section there. .....Hm. Yeah. The reasonable and helpful attitude he seems to have and exhibit on a number of good or at least neutral other things he working on doing for folks takes a selfish detour in these two sites, with surprising unexpected bitterness showing itself. He becomes someone else.

      He's not just a run-of-the-mill naturalist. No. This is different. A red hot cause.

      What are his reasons? The aim is undertaken with such urgency and framed by anger so much that this desire of his to end Christianity must be motivated by some things that happened personally [to] hurt Brian Brain in his past.

      These two comics, which are from the "God is Imaginary" site, do illustrate Mr. Brain's website's two headliner points of attack, I think:
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      In my opinion, the single most telling piece of evidence that shows how poorly we're manifesting our call to care for animals is the recent creation of factory farms. Over the last century we have, to a large degree, reduced farm animals to commercialized commodities whose only value is found in how efficiently we can produce and slaughter them for profit. Consequently, more than 26 billion animals each year are forced to live in miserable, overcrowded warehouses, where there is absolutely nothing natural about their existence and where they are subjected to barbaric, painful, industrial procedures.
      This is a far cry from what God meant when he told us to exercise "dominion."
      (Pastor Greg Boyd.)

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      Quote Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
      Not much better, from what I can see.

      Edit to add: Looking at your OP, um... Gee. The Iliad is a valid comparison to the gospels? Really??
      Are the Vedas actually History or mystery, is the Qu'ran actually history or mystery, the point is without evidence none of them can be regarded as history, just mystery, that may have a little historical truth in them.
      What is the difference between the harpi's and centaurs in the Iliad and the cockatrice and flying serpent's in the bible, Why should one book get more regard than the other.

      Quote Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
      You give me the strong impression that you're skimming lightly over things, looking mainly at the skeptical writers, avoiding the strongest Christian responses, and going with the conclusions that fit your already decided outcome. I could be wrong, of course...
      I been doing this for some years, I'm sorry there has not been anything new brought to the table, and no I don't skim I check and research.
      Why do you thing that even religious scholars call it a faith. because it is an apt name. There is no evidence for any of it.

      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      Marshall Brain. He is really an enigma. He's accomplished and knowledeable on a number of topics that are useful and worthy, but then there are his stand out websites: Why won't God heal Amputees? and God is Imaginary.
      I dare say the same can be said about you, but then there's the theism.
      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      He reads on Wiki as a nice ordinary fellow who is going about doing some worthy and important things, but Christianity he wants to end. He wants to organize it's demise, ASAP. Divergent...passion.

      Why is he so resentful towards Christianity? Why is he trying to put an immediate stop to it ? A real stop.

      I don't get it. Very strange.
      Christianity is the dominant religion on this planet, and especially dominant in America.
      so what do you expect him to debunk, Also it doesn't say in any other holy book other than the bible "ask and you shall receive". Which is a lie.

      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      What happened to him? This strong desire doesn't just spring up out of nowhere. What are the personal roots of it for him, I wonder (?)
      Being lied to and indoctrinated as a child I would hasten to guess. a lot of non-believers are people who have reverted back to the norm, we are all tabula raza ( a blank slate) at the beginning.

      Quote Originally posted by gharfish View Post
      Look at the Join Us link on "God is Imaginary." ...Look at the Comics section there. .....Hm. Yeah. The reasonable and helpful attitude he seems to have and exhibit on a number of good or at least neutral other things he working on doing for folks takes a selfish detour in these two sites, with surprising unexpected bitterness showing itself. He becomes someone else.

      He's not just a run-of-the-mill naturalist. No. This is different. A red hot cause.

      What are his reasons? The aim is undertaken with such urgency and framed by anger so much that this desire of his to end Christianity must be motivated by some things that happened personally [to] hurt Brian Brain in his past.
      I can only assume that if you say suddenly realised that all that you believed was a lie, and that your parents, friends, elders, etc, all lied to you forcing to endure church, calling you sinful, etc, I can empathise with him if that was the case. I'm surprise you can't.
      What would you feel like.

      I was lucky I was born into a family of non-believer, so was never forced to follow a religion.

      Quote Originally posted by MaxVel View Post
      These two comics, which are from the "God is Imaginary" site, do illustrate Mr. Brain's website's two headliner points of attack, I think:
      Good aren't they.
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      Yes that's it, lol, Encore! Encore!
      Simple things please simple minds.

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      What would be the benefit of refuting them again, it is a waste of time and effort, bring something new to the table, Please.
      You have yet to refute anything, now, put your money where your mouth is and bring something new to the table.

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      If you think you're so right, put your money where your mouth is and take it to, http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php#c1 instead of this group comfort blanket. Have some backbone man.
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      The OP refutes ever possible argument,
      How many acres do you need to squeeze that hubris into?
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      The OP refutes ever possible argument
      No, it does not.

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      it was compiled over many years
      Mine was composed in a matter of months.
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      However do you have the backbone to counter those arguments.
      Why in the world does something like 'Why is there no table of contents or index in the Bible?' and 'Why didn't God have to marry Mary?' even need refutation
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