Re: Denied, yet sadly true ...
I don't know about Dawkins and Miller, but I do know you demonstrate an inablity to face the fact you are wrong repeatedly, as do most YEC leaders. But of course, since this is the case, you will deny it is the case - leaving us at an impasse ... except that we have so many examples of where you were wrong and will not admit it!
Originally posted by Jorge
Yes, your 'I challenge you to a dual' was essentially refused by me, more or less. I had not actually decided what I was going to do in response to it, but there is something very, very fishy about the fact you demand this exchange be done 'in real time' privately in YM vs. via pm or online in a thread. The reality is, If you have a valid argument, there is no reason it needs to be real time, or private. It should stand on its own merits. If your primary concern is trash talk from others, PM is fine, or a one-on-one thread where we are the only valid participants. I personally place no value on being able to respond quickly in a debate setting as relates to a techncal discussion such as the one proposed. And calling me 'yellow' will not gain you an inch. What matters is the accuracy of the information and logic.
Anyway, you can continue to spout your "Jorge is wrong"
and "Jorge does not understand
all you want. I shan't ever let you forget that I gave you the opportunity for a
one-on-one, interactive, real-time session with me to get the FACTS for yourself (granted,
on another topic) and you chose to "pass" on that opportunity - no doubt afraid of being
silenced despite what else you may have said (including, "I'm going on a vacation"
Vast Majority Jorge. And what is that that is being discussed here Jorge? That selection allows for the RARE (not the Vast Majority) to rise to the top. THAT is the debate, the discussion. Clearly by saying 'vast majority' you are admitting SOME positive mutations occur. Now, since negative mutations are culled via NS, and positive mutations retained via NS, where is your support of the idea this process will not allow for macro-evolution? You've done no more here than say 'nuh uh'. Try again.
Lastly, so that you do not go away empty-handed saying that Jorge did not address your
point, I will simply refer you to Sanford's Genetic Entropy
in which everything that you
speak of above is permanently shot down. As one example, it is a known fact that
the vast majority of
mutations cannot be selected for except in a negative sense. If you
want to know what that means then you will just have to read the book (GE
"Let the hand not say to the foot - I have no need of thee ..."
"I assume you have prepared new insults for me today ..."
- Spock (the younger)