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Book Plunge: Proof of Heaven

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  • Book Plunge: Proof of Heaven

    Does Alexander present a good case?

    The link can be found here.

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    What do I think of Eben Alexander's book published by Simon and Schuster? Let's plunge into the Deeper Waters and find out.

    I was asked to read this book by someone interested in near-death experiences. I also have an interest in them, but I do prefer the evidential ones. No doubt, many of them provide comfort and meaning to the people who have them and while that is data to be used, I want something that can show that they are really having interactions going on outside of the body. This is a big problem for a materialist worldview.

    Eben Alexander's has been a popular one for some time and was the one I was asked about. He does have the advantage that he is a neurosurgeon so there's no doubt he knows how the brain works. I think the case does establish that he had some kind of activity likely going on after he died. I do not think he made up his experience or anything like that.

    The problem is not much beyond that is evidential. There is very little that he can point to going on in the world when he was in his comatose state and had no higher brain functions. We cannot take what he says about the beyond then in an authoritative way. We have no way of verifying it.

    My big problem is it seems to be very much more of a New Age perspective. Nothing is said about Jesus and God is referred to as Om. The message given was love, which is fine, but then a part of "Nothing you can do is wrong." I think we could all disagree with that part. Plenty of what we do is wrong.

    Alexander does talk about going to church and taking communion, but one reads his book and wonders how deep it goes. What does communion mean to him? Does he take his experience as the final authority? As a Christian, I think it is important that we use Scripture to interpret our experience instead of the other way around.

    Alexander's story is indeed a remarkable one and I do think something miraculous happened that allowed him to recover from his illness. The problem is I don't see how this constitutes proof of heaven. Heaven isn't even defined in his book. What is this Heaven? How does someone get there?

    Alexander doesn't really spend time answering these questions. There isn't interacting with many of the world religions to see what is said about them. There is an interesting story about his family history and about problems in scientific circles with NDEs not being taken seriously, but those of us who are more evidential in our thinking want more. As I said, my biggest problem is that the experience is the greatest authority.

    In conclusion, the story is interesting, but I cannot recommend it really. I think an experience like Alexander's does show that there is more to a person than their physical body and it does put materialistic thinking in a problem, but not much beyond that. I would much more recommend works like Steve Miller's or Michael Sabom's.

    In Christ,
    Nick Peters

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    “after he died” ???
    The thing about NDE is that the people involved do not die, but their brains are not functioning properly.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
    “not all there” - you know who you are

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    • #3
      Ignoring firstfloor's typical protestations, I would be skeptical of NDEs as showing anything.

      I'm open to them demonstrating some type of non-material aspect to the mind, but the vast majority of cases seem unconvincing. Cases in which the deceased came to know things he couldn't possibly have known, are, of course, far different.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by psstein View Post
        Ignoring firstfloor's typical protestations, I would be skeptical of NDEs as showing anything.

        I'm open to them demonstrating some type of non-material aspect to the mind, but the vast majority of cases seem unconvincing. Cases in which the deceased came to know things he couldn't possibly have known, are, of course, far different.
        Those are the ones that interest me as well.

        I have First Floor on ignore.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by firstfloor View Post
          “after he died” ???
          The thing about NDE is that the people involved do not die, but their brains are not functioning properly.
          This may be a first. I agree with ff.
          Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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