Rationalizing Pedophilia in Islam

[rogue06]

I think what Barnasha was trying to say in post #2, is that this isn't an Islamic issue, but a Saudi Arabian one. While this Dr. Fawzan is a religious authority in Saudi Arabia, he isn't an authority for all of Islam.

Ayatollah Khomeini, who declared that “A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby" most certainly wasn't a Saudi Arabian. He didn't even practice the same form of Islam (he was Shia where Saudi Arabia is Sunni)

[rogue06]

Considering that Mohammed married a prepubescent 6 year old girl, and then "consummated" said marriage when she was 9(she still didn't even start her periods until around 16, and I am guessing due to illness and bodily trauma caused by Mohammed) I would say that you are wrong when you say that it is not an Islamic issue.

According to the Hadiths, Muhammad wanted to consummate his marriage to Aisha right away but she fell sick with all of her hair falling out. He waited until she recovered completely which wasn't until she was nine.

[Cerebrum123]

According to the Hadiths, Muhammad wanted to consummate his marriage to Aisha right away but she fell sick with all of her hair falling out. He waited until she recovered completely which wasn't until she was nine.

Yeah, I know, but I thought that it might be better to wait on the details for some of this stuff, since the topic (especially the source material) is rather disturbing.

[ZackMartin]

Listen Zack, I am glad that your uncle practices Islam in such a way, but not only is he historically wrong(don't get me wrong he is doing a GREAT thing by not following Islam's real teachings), but he is wrong with his own contemporary Muslims as well. You have men as old as 50 marrying girls of almost any age even in this day and age.

The thing you have to remember, is he is a Muslim from the former Yugoslavia. And in that part of the world, among Muslims, these practices are largely unheard of. Sure, Muslims in Saudi Arabia or Yemen do these things. But while European Muslims (by which I mean the Muslims whose families have lived in Europe for centuries, not the recent arrivals) may be out of step with the rest of the Muslim world, he is not out of step with his national, ethnic or cultural background.

There are massive differences in how Islam is practised in different countries, cultures, ethnic groups, sects. While some Muslims embrace these disturbing practices, many Muslims find them as disturbing as we do, and whether or not they are faithful to original Islam in finding it so disturbing, they certainly are faithful to the kind of Islam handed down to them in their family, culture, ethnicity, country, sect, etc.

My uncle's family really don't like Saudis. They try to insert themselves into ethnic Muslim communities, and bring lots of oil money from the Saudi government with them, which is tempting, but then start causing problems by trying to turn the community's version of Islam into Saudi Arabian Islam. None of the women in his family wear head coverings, not even his elderly mother, because it's just not in their version of Islam. And one time, some Saudis came over for tea, and refused to shake any woman's hand, and then demanded that either the women leave the room or else they'd leave the room, and in the end the Saudis had to have tea in the backyard so they could get away from the women. And the Saudis never got invited back.

[Cerebrum123]

The thing you have to remember, is he is a Muslim from the former Yugoslavia. And in that part of the world, among Muslims, these practices are largely unheard of. Sure, Muslims in Saudi Arabia or Yemen do these things. But while European Muslims (by which I mean the Muslims whose families have lived in Europe for centuries, not the recent arrivals) may be out of step with the rest of the Muslim world, he is not out of step with his national, ethnic or cultural background.

There are massive differences in how Islam is practised in different countries, cultures, ethnic groups, sects. While some Muslims embrace these disturbing practices, many Muslims find them as disturbing as we do, and whether or not they are faithful to original Islam in finding it so disturbing, they certainly are faithful to the kind of Islam handed down to them in their family, culture, ethnicity, country, sect, etc.

My uncle's family really don't like Saudis. They try to insert themselves into ethnic Muslim communities, and bring lots of oil money from the Saudi government with them, which is tempting, but then start causing problems by trying to turn the community's version of Islam into Saudi Arabian Islam. None of the women in his family wear head coverings, not even his elderly mother, because it's just not in their version of Islam. And one time, some Saudis came over for tea, and refused to shake any woman's hand, and then demanded that either the women leave the room or else they'd leave the room, and in the end the Saudis had to have tea in the backyard so they could get away from the women. And the Saudis never got invited back.

Like I said, I am GLAD that they aren't following these diabolical teachings of Mohammed, but that only shows that they aren't consistent with the teachings of Islam past or present. I have Muslim friends(online, I am unable to get out of my house without help), and I believe that they would find these teachings disgusting as well, but they still have bought into the rest of the lies that are in Islam. From a Christian perspective (I would think you would know this) it is important for exposing such falsehoods, and leading others to the Truth that is Jesus Christ.

John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

As long as they are still following Mohammed (even if they are not following his actual teachings), then they are still buying into a lie. There will also be no way for them to have their sins forgiven, and that is of extreme importance. Also it's not just the Saudi's, but pretty much every Muslim majority nation that is feeling the brunt of these activities, and even in places like Denmark and Norway, are feeling the evil effects of Mohammed's teachings(Muslims are in a minority there, but they commit a majority of the rapes). Islam is a rotten tree with rotten fruits, and it needs to be cut down and thrown into the fire.

Matthew 7:16-18
New International Version (NIV)
16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.