CNN: More Fake News

[Mountain Man]

What nonsense, Clinton didn't take any crap from the Russians or from Putin specifically, and wasn't affraid to speak her mind about his government and the rigged elections.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-putin-226153

Your link proves my point: "The only time she ever took a hardline stance against Russian interests was when there was an election on the line."

[One Bad Pig]

Your link proves my point: "The only time she ever took a hardline stance against Russian interests was when there was an election on the line."

It also happens to be about the time her campaign manager Mook first floated the idea that Trump was colluding with the Russians (per Shattered, the tell-all book about her campaign). What a koinkydink!

[JimL]

Your link proves my point: "The only time she ever took a hardline stance against Russian interests was when there was an election on the line."

To your brain MM, everything and anything proves your point. Sad, really sad!

[One Bad Pig]

To your brain MM, everything and anything proves your point. Sad, really sad!

Perhaps you should re-think your desire to provide witty comebacks.

[Mountain Man]

Perhaps you should re-think your desire to provide witty comebacks.

He has yet to realize that effective satire requires more than the ability to tightly grip one's crayon.

[Sea of red]

It also happens to be about the time her campaign manager Mook first floated the idea that Trump was colluding with the Russians (per Shattered, the tell-all book about her campaign). What a koinkydink!

Speaking of koinkydinks, turns out the "translator" of the meeting (I thought it was four people?) was Irakly Kaveladze, a long suspected money launderer by the US government, that networked $1.4 billion from Europe to the US using dozens of shell companies.

Interestingly, Natalia Veselnitskaya represented Russian firm, Prevezon Holdings, which was accused of laundering illicit funds in New York real estate. The case was suddenly settled by the DOJ for peanuts, and Trump fired the prosecutor heading the case. Since then, Veseltntiskaya has been having her own person 'Festivus' since Trumps election - that totally has nothing to do with this meeting - this stuff was never discussed.

AG Sessions, the Russian lawyer, and the money laundering case that went away

http://www.philly.com/philly/columni...-20170717.html

It didn’t make a lot of news in May when the U.S. Department of Justice abruptly settled a case against a Russian firm, Prevezon Holdings, that stood accused of laundering ill-gotten gains through Manhattan real estate. Reports said the case, which was about to go to trial, was settled for $6 million — far less than expected — and that the Russian firm was not required to make any admission of guilt. Officials with Prevezon at the time said (echoing “The Godfather” without irony) that the offer from the Jeff Sessions-led Justice Department “was too good to refuse.”

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At that moment, it seemingly meant nothing that one of the lawyers in the case — representing the family of Pyotr Katsyv, the former vice governor of the Moscow region, whose son, Denis owned Prevezon — was a virtually unknown Russian named Natalia Veselnitskaya. She said in May that the favorable deal her client was offered by Trump’s Justice Department was “almost an apology from the (U.S.) government.”

Originally, the case would have been tried by the office of then-Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, who was known as something of a pit bull on business corruption cases, including money laundering. It’s hard to imagine that Bharara — who’d initially been told he would stay on despite the change in administrations — would have signed off onto such a milquetoast settlement with the Russian schemers. But in March, Trump surprised legal observers by abruptly firing Bharara along with 45 other incumbent U.S. attorneys. (President Trump had tried to call Bharara the day before the firing, but the prosecutor refused to speak with him.) The settlement with Prevezon came just weeks later.

Cases of alleged business dirty-dealing — involving money laundering and a complex tax fraud scheme — rarely capture the public’s imagination. But this matter seems to intersect with too many key signposts of the burgeoning Trump-Russia scandal to ignore. You may have heard that the main goal of the Russian lawyer Veselnitskaya and the spy-turned-lobbyist who accompanied her to Trump Tower was overturning the Magnitsky Act — strict economic sanctions that the U.S. imposed on Vladimir Putin’s Russia three years ago. The law was named for Sergei Magnitsky, a Moscow attorney who blew the whistle on what he said was a massive scheme involving Russian mobsters, shady businessmen and the highest levels of the Kremlin to defraud the government of taxes and launder the money in the U.S. and elsewhere. Russian authorities arrested Magnitsky — who turned up dead a year later, victim of an alleged beating and poor medical care. One of the companies in the scheme that Magnitsky blew the whistle on was Prevezon Holdings.

I think we figured out the real reason why Jeff "I don't recall" Sessions has recused himself.

[Mountain Man]

I'm sure Sessions personally delivered the killing blow with his own hands.

Just more innuendo with no solid evidence. This is getting boring.

[Tassman]

I'm sure Sessions personally delivered the killing blow with his own hands.

Just more innuendo with no solid evidence. This is getting boring.

It’s pretty solid. What we have is a highly suspicious, ever-changing story of a secret meeting attended by the Trump inner circle and high profile Russians with connections to Putin himself, instigated for the stated purpose of discussing the Russian offer to help get Trump elected.

Given the persons in attendance, the probable quid quo pro was for Trump, when president, to repay this help by removing the Magnitsky Act. This is personally costing Putin and his oligarchic friends billions of dollars due to its ban on the use of the US banking system.

Hint: Always follow the money trail.

[Mountain Man]

Everything is "highly suspicious" to a conspiracy nut.

[One Bad Pig]

Speaking of koinkydinks, turns out the "translator" of the meeting (I thought it was four people?) was Irakly Kaveladze, a long suspected money launderer by the US government, that networked $1.4 billion from Europe to the US using dozens of shell companies.

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Interesting. According to this morning's WaPo, he attended in order to translate but Veselnitskaya brought her own translator.

[Sea of red]

"<snip conspiracy theorizing>"
Interesting. According to this morning's WaPo, he attended in order to translate but Veselnitskaya brought her own translator.

Conspiracy theorizing?

Natalia Veselnitskaya DID represent Prevezon Holdings, they were guilty of laundering Russian money, Trump DID fire the prosecutor leading the investigation, and the DOJ (headed by Sessions) did settle the case unexpectedly for peanuts.

It's kinda of hard for something to be a conspiracy theory, if it happened, OBP.

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[Darth Executor]

Conspiracy theorizing?

Natalia Veselnitskaya DID represent Prevezon Holdings, they were guilty of laundering Russian money, Trump DID fire the prosecutor leading the investigation, and the DOJ (headed by Sessions) did settle the case unexpectedly for peanuts.

It's kinda of hard for something to be a conspiracy theory, if it happened, OBP.

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Don't play stupid, stupid, you know exactly what the conspiracy is: that Trump let off a guilty company off with a slap on the wrist in return for some service performed.

[Sea of red]

Don't play stupid, stupid, you know exactly what the conspiracy is: that Trump let off a guilty company off with a slap on the wrist in return for some service performed.

Did you just figure that out all by yourself?

It's obvious. Even a really ignorant dumbass like yourself can apparently see it.

[Darth Executor]

Did you just figure that out all by yourself?

It's obvious. Even a really ignorant dumbass like yourself can apparently see it.

No, it's really not obvious (even if i give you all the premises, which I don't). Like I said before, you have a very conspiratorial mind, like Alex Jones, so you see "connections" when there's nothing concrete.

[Mountain Man]

It's obvious. Even a really ignorant dumbass like yourself can apparently see it.

Why, it's so obvious, there's not even any evidence to support such an accusation!