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Thread: Jehovah's Witnesses translation of John 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    Let's hope they don't cotton onto Jesus' comment "you are gods, and the scripture cannot be broken."
    easily handled. In psalm 82, which Jesus is quoting (I believe sarcastically) the verse make it clear that "elohim" (gods) refers to judges and leaders and they are indeed "false gods" because the psalm goes on to say "you will die like men" - God was chastising the leaders saying that while they were like gods, they would die regardless because of their failures to do right.

    Here is the JW (NWT) translation of Psalm 82

    God takes his place in the divine assembly;*+ In the middle of the gods* he judges:+ 2 “How long will you continue to judge with injustice+ And show partiality to the wicked?+ (Selah) 3 Defend* the lowly and the fatherless.+ Render justice to the helpless and destitute.+ 4 Rescue the lowly and the poor; Save them out of the hand of the wicked.” 5 They do not know, nor do they understand;+ They are walking about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are being shaken.+ 6 “I have said, ‘You are gods,*+ All of you are sons of the Most High. 7 But you will die just as men do;+ And like any other prince you will fall!’”


    I don't think they would want to associate Jesus with these guys.

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    In pursuit of the aim to show the Christ is not God, I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    In pursuit of the aim to show the Christ is not God, I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
    They actually think that Jesus is the incarnation of the Archangel Michael.

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    Heh? They don't know that Michael is the Holy Spirit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    Heh? They don't know that Michael is the Holy Spirit?
    er, what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tabibito View Post
    He bit.
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian3 View Post
    So, I told the lady that the next time she showed up at my door I would have something in writing for her to read.
    From my experience with them, they probably won't read it. I think they are "encouraged" not to read anything contrary to their beliefs, the same way Mormons are. It's better to memorize the key points and any Bible references in your materials, and bring it up in conversation.
    Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuantaFille View Post
    From my experience with them, they probably won't read it. I think they are "encouraged" not to read anything contrary to their beliefs, the same way Mormons are. It's better to memorize the key points and any Bible references in your materials, and bring it up in conversation.
    You are probably right, but at least I will have done my part and maybe they will think I am a lost cause and stop dropping by.

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    If all else fails, make an appointment to meet them at say 2:00 pm Saturday, then make sure you get some Mormons to drop by at the same time. I haven't seen either at my place in the more than thirty years since I did it.
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