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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
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goalposts.jpgOriginally posted by Starlight View PostMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?Comment
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Cite the place - in the New Testament - where condemnation is in the hands of anyone other than either God or the condemned.If God thinks something's worthy of the cosmic death penalty, it hardly seems over the top for a Christian to think it's worthy of a merely-human death penalty!1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Mat 18:16-17, 1 Cor 5:3-5, 1 Cor 6:2-3, John 7:24, Titus 3:10, 1 Cor 5:11-13, 1 Tim 1:20, Rom 16:17, Gal 6:1, 1 Tim 5:20.Originally posted by tabibito View Post"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert EinsteinComment
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I already knew you had virtually no understanding of Scripture, but this . . . none of these deal with condemnation. Do you even know what condemnation refers to? Evidently not.Originally posted by Starlight View PostMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?Comment
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Thus confirming the known fact that you have no reading comprehension ability and no understanding of the English language.Originally posted by Jedidiah View Post"I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert EinsteinComment
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But God is concerned about what happens in the here and now. The Old Testament law is intimately concerned with ensuring that people are treated fairly in their everyday lives, even down to having accurate weights and having parapets on their houses to prevent people from falling out. These things matter to God. None of this is inconsistent with the notion that all sin leads to death.Originally posted by Meh Gerbil View Post"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard RavenhillComment
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Spiritual condemnation or capital punishment?Originally posted by tabibito View Post"I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard RavenhillComment
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Of course God is concerned with what happens in the here and now - that is the reason for all of those safety related laws.Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
Obviously, those laws have relatively minor impact as opposed to full on massive impact depending on what the law is addressing.
However, Romans isn't talking about comparing one law to another in regard to the impact in the here and now.
He's addressing the law in regard to how it impacts our relationship with God (righteousness) and as such all are equally deadly.
The Bible says if you fail on the smallest law that you're doomed.
To put it another way:
The measurement of big sins and little sins make sense when it comes to thinking about our relationships with one another; however, big sins and little sins are equally deadly when considering our relationship with God.
That is how Jesus speaking about merely considering adultery is equal to committing adultery - he's talking about it in regard to righteousness before God. However, in human/human relationships I can guarantee you my wife doesn't consider the two to be equal.
So when Romans is used as it is often misused, it is a violation of the intent of the text.Actually YOU put Trump in the White House. He wouldn't have gotten 1% of the vote if it wasn't for the widespread spiritual and cultural devastation caused by progressive policies. There's no "this country" left with your immigration policies, your "allies" are worthless and even more suicidal than you are and democracy is a sick joke that I hope nobody ever thinks about repeating when the current order collapses. - Darth_Executor striking a conciliatory note in Civics 101Comment
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Matt 18:16-17 ... Exile the unrepentant sinner
1 Cor 5:3-5 ... Exile of a person professing to believe but who does not behave in an appropriate manner from membership of the church.
1 Cor 6:2-3 ... Future, possibly post apocalypse, definitely refers to circumstances that don't hold in the present. "Will be" is not the same as "is".
John 7:24 ... How does exercising or passing judgement equate to condemnation - particularly in view of 1 Cor 5:3-5?
Titus 3:10 ... Not materially different from 1 Cor 5: 3-5
1 Cor 5:11-13 ... Yep - withdraw from and exile a false brother.
1 Tim 1:20 ... Yep - exile of a false brother per 1 Cor 5: 3-5
Rom 16:17 ... Don't associate with trouble makers who claim to be brothers per 1 Cor 5: 3-5
Gal 6:1 ... Help others to overcome their fault ... seriously?
1 Tim 5:20 ... Elders who sin are to be rebuked publicly.
And there was me thinking that you were referring to condemnation as sentence of death, not as taking steps to prevent trouble makers from having opportunity to bring the entire congregation into disrepute.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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That was my point exactly, but I was not going to get into it with Starlight. That would serve no purpose.Originally posted by tabibito View PostMicah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?Comment
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