September 2011 Screwballs

[ukchristian28]

Internet Freethought boils down to memorizing and repeating a list of bumpersticker cliches

Quite so. They all seem to say the same ignorant things. The guy's latest comments:

@ukchristian28 You're right, being an atheist, provides NO basis for morality. Being a member of society, however does. It's a really simple idea. Don't do things that harm others.
Of course you're God must be right! That's why you kill people who work on the Sabbath, endorse slavery and genocide, and force a rape victim to marry her rapist! You support all of those "Moral" positions, right?
I refused to be talked down to on morality by anyone who claims biblical morality! Shame on you!

[Rayado]

[ukchristian28]

Screwball to Kent Hovind and newroze98 who made this video of his hero debating Hugh Ross. J.P, I have to ask you, are there different regions of Waaah Waaah World? Are some land masses occupied by fundy Christians and others by fundy atheists? I am thinking that must be the case. Look at 2:09- 2:51 and 4:47 - 5:55 for example and you'll see what I mean. Wow, Hovind and his follower display simple mindedness at its best!



Oh let's not forget these enlightening words from the video description:

Old Earth Creationists believe that you can use things like the Big bang in the Biblical context. In my opinion it's the easy way out because they are affraid to confront Athiests.

If you believe the Bible the only choice you have is to take the Bible litterly, every single word !!!

If you need a GURU like Hugh Ross to explain us how the Bible is ment than what's the whole purpose of it ?

May God bless the Young Earth Creationists !

[wildrow12]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/11...s-bar-mitzvah/

Anti-Screwball to Mr. Laufer

SARASOTA, Fla. -- An 82-year-old Sarasota man will hold his bar mitzvah -- the coming-of-age ritual traditionally extended to Jewish boys upon turning 13 -- nearly 70 years later.

Sol Laufer never had his bar mitzvah when he was a teen in 1941 because the Nazis placed Laufer and his family into a Jewish ghetto during World War II. He was later sent to a concentration camp, where he subsisted on flour and sawdust bread rations and watery soup and became ill before the Soviets liberated his camp in 1945.

His entire family was killed in the Holocaust.

Saturday, Laufer will hold his bar mitzvah at Chabad of Sarasota. He is a retiree who founded a high-end optic systems company.

The rabbi at Chabad says Laufer's is the oldest initiation he's ever conducted.

[Raphael]

Screwball to Kent Hovind and newroze98 who made this video of his hero debating Hugh Ross. J.P, I have to ask you, are there different regions of Waaah Waaah World? Are some land masses occupied by fundy Christians and others by fundy atheists? I am thinking that must be the case. Look at 2:09- 2:51 and 4:47 - 5:55 for example and you'll see what I mean. Wow, Hovind and his follower display simple mindedness at its best!



Oh let's not forget these enlightening words from the video description:

Speaking as a YEC, and having listened to all Hovind's videos, I am of the opinion that the man does more damage to the YEC position than any opponent to the position you care to name.
That is a sentiment that a close friend of mine (who is an athiest, and a social darwinist to boot) shares.

[lilpixieofterror]

Screwball to Kent Hovind and newroze98 who made this video of his hero debating Hugh Ross. J.P, I have to ask you, are there different regions of Waaah Waaah World? Are some land masses occupied by fundy Christians and others by fundy atheists? I am thinking that must be the case. Look at 2:09- 2:51 and 4:47 - 5:55 for example and you'll see what I mean. Wow, Hovind and his follower display simple mindedness at its best!



Oh let's not forget these enlightening words from the video description:

I found one sentence of that comment pretty entertaining:

If you believe the Bible the only choice you have is to take the Bible litterly, every single word !!!

So I guess we are supposed to take Jesus parables, the Psalms, and Proverbs word by word literal as well even when most traditional interpretations take them as more figurative then literal? Seriously, why is it that fundies of all stripes all sound the same?

[Manwë Súlimo]

I clicked play then stopped it a few seconds later. I just couldn't stand to see the fundy smugness that I knew was coming.

[nightbringer]

I like that the editor accused Ross of being an Atheist. That was kind of endearing.

[jpholding]

Screwball to Kent Hovind and newroze98 who made this video of his hero debating Hugh Ross. J.P, I have to ask you, are there different regions of Waaah Waaah World? Are some land masses occupied by fundy Christians and others by fundy atheists?

I think the ones the Christian versions occupy is in a parallel universe, and is probably called Haaah Haaah World instead.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

It wasn't a made-up video. That was an actual debate. It took place on the John Ankerberg show. Ankerberg I understand was highly convinced of OEC after that show.

[ukchristian28]

It wasn't a made-up video. That was an actual debate. It took place on the John Ankerberg show. Ankerberg I understand was highly convinced of OEC after that show.

Indeed, I have watched the whole thing. How anyone can say Kent Hovind won is beyond me. People like him make it easier for atheists to laugh at Christians.

But back to the atheists. How on earth do we respond to someone like tigerclaw1000?

It is interesting how you Christians often look up the words alternative meaning in the bible only when it contradicts your agenda, but in other cases like a talking snake you actually believe that it talked!! Or that the flood was in the whole world! Or the implications that the earth was flat(hence the oppression in the dark ages). Thunderf00t should get a medal for having the patience, and not kicking the [censored] out of that horrible [censored]. As always you are cherry picking in a pile of [censored].

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[ApologiaPhoenix]

I say it'd be interesting if I believed those things.

[ukchristian28]

One other thing I notice about fundy atheists and fundy Christians is that they are both completely unwilling to consider anything from someone who doesn't accept their worldview. A fundy Christian for example wouldn't consider any scientific evidence against a global flood on the grounds that it is presented by non-believers who "don't have the Spirit". Fundy atheists on the other hand will insist that a biblical scholar's opinions for example on the meaning of pistis must be rejected because "apologists rationalize things and the dictionary says faith is belief without evidence, so there." It's really amuses me that both groups hate each other so much when they are so much alike.

[Chaotic Void]

Old Earth Creationists believe that you can use things like the Big bang in the Biblical context. In my opinion it's the easy way out because they are affraid to confront Athiests.

I wonder if this knucklehead realizes that one of the men behind the Big Bang theory was a Catholic Priest (George Lemaitre), though this guy probably rejects Catholics as Christians...

If you believe the Bible the only choice you have is to take the Bible litterly, every single word !!!

I bet this guy would develop massive cognitive dissonance if someone brought forth the timing passages found in the Gospels and Revelation.

If you need a GURU like Hugh Ross to explain us how the Bible is ment than what's the whole purpose of it ?

Kinda shoots himself in the foot here, since Kent Hovind is a "Guru" of YEC- albeit a crappy one.

[Teluog]

While we're on the topic of creation science, I'm nominating for the first and probably the last time RBerman, who's credibility in my view has taken a steep dip. In a thread on the conflict between creationism and evolution, I stated that exegesis and historical background of early Genesis seems to be tossed out the window even though many who study the Bible realize the need for proper exegesis and historical background info for proper interpretation. I posted a few videos of interviews with John Walton explaining the thesis of his book Lost World of Genesis, which digs into the historical background of the Israelites. His response:

I'm as concerned about the meaning of Genesis as Jesus, Peter, and Paul were. They referred to the events of Genesis as facts, and even staked important theological points (marriage, the final judgment, salvation) on the historicity of Adam, Abraham, Noah, etc. Who are you or I or John Walton to say they were wrong because they didn't understand a hypothetical reconstruction of "the original audience" based on tenuous evidence from various ancient writings?

Not only is he quickly dismissing the historical background of the Bible, but he didn't even watch the videos as Walton states that he believe God created the physical universe, and Walton's thesis doesn't deny the historicity of Genesis either. Pretty disappointing response coming from someone who often has his beliefs thought through thoroughly and articulated clearly.