The Political Screwballs Thread

[Augustine2004]

Man ordered to surrender guns – just for blogging!
[warning, crude language] http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=349713

On reading the story, I see that a woman misconstrued those blogs as making threats against her. Real whacko. Incredibly, a judge went with that and issued an order to the blogger to give up his guns. I understand that public outcry made the government back down--something not mentioned in the story??--but the blogger says he doesn't own guns anymore.

The report then brings up a similar case in Arizona, in which another judge ordered another man to give up his weapons for allegedly making certain statements that was excessive in crudity to a government official. Again public outcry made the judge back down.


The point I wish to underline is in both cases the government took away a certain right then backed down after the public made its opinion known in no uncertain terms I think that is applicable to freedom of speech. I don't think people understand what they have lost and stand to lose.


I think the government wants to destroy our liberty totally. Just about the only thing that is checking that desire is the prospect of revolt ending in revolution or the State just don't want to lose the credibility or standing of being Big Good Daddy to the people. Consider sociopath Senator Joe Lieberman's campaign to give the POTUS an Internet kill switch. First, that is an instance among many of the government wanting to take away our liberty instead of safeguarding it. Second, ask yourself what's keeping the government, as powerful as it is, from just going ahead and implementing the switch.


If you don't mind a 'whacko' opinion . . . We spend too much time, energy, and other resources to just fight the government to make it reverse unpopular decisions--or we live with them, like we live with all those wars in the MENA. I think we should do away with the USFG and the state governments. I would like to do away with county and local government, too, but I reluctantly recognize the right of people to live under whatever government they prefer.

[Augustine2004]

Not sure what happened, but I think I can slap this smiley on this item, also:
http://womeninbusiness.about.com/b/2...california.htm

[Challenger Grim]

JCW had a powerful piece on all this.

Can't link, just look for "aux armes citoyens".

[Augustine2004]

I found JC Wright's article aux armes citoyens. Why can't you link?

[Augustine2004]

I have now read the article aux armes citoyens. I am not a total pacifist. When possible use just enough violence to defend yourself, your property, someone else, or his property, if called for.

As for the government, though, reeducation of the public is far preferable. An armed rebellion is just a potential government, so what's the point in rushing to arms! Witness the French Revolution or the Bolshie Revolution. Mao Tse Tung--ugh. If enough people could be converted to anti-Statism, the State should wither away.

[Challenger Grim]

I found JC Wright's article aux armes citoyens. Why can't you link?

There's a few choice words in it.

[Augustine2004]

the only way to really guard against viral infections is though immunization (which I doubt they understand how that works either).

Vaccines? Well, not quite. It may be much better to just keep your immune system as healthy as it can be. For one thing, the way vaccines are made now, they cause many side effects, some of which can be fatal.

[rogue06]

Vaccines? Well, not quite. It may be much better to just keep your immune system as healthy as it can be. For one thing, the way vaccines are made now, they cause many side effects, some of which can be fatal.

The dangers of not taking them are much more better documented.

[rogue06]

Well the typical "due process" for traitors during a time of war is to give them a cigarette and a wall to stand against.

Normally there's this thing called a "trial" that must first be carried out before you can stand them up against a wall and shoot them. I have to admit I'm uncomfortable with the idea that a president can merely declare someone is a traitor and order their execution.

[Augustine2004]

The dangers of not taking them are much more better documented.

Oh, yeah!?

Conventional medicine does not have a good record on cancer treatments--well documented, if only you'd look. A reason Jobs lasted as long as he did appears to be that most of the years after he got his initial cancer diagnosis could be because he avoided conventional treatments for the most part. Things went blooie quickly after he finally got some.

Some alternative-medicine practitioners cite patients that have lasted for decades, sometimes becoming cancer-free.

More to the point, vaccines, why the hell do you think you know the benefits outweigh the drawbacks? To be sure in some cases they do benefit more than harm, but Big Medicine and Big Government (FDA included) are monsters from what I have read. Have you not heard of Merck's Gardasil, the vaccine Rick Perry attempted to push on his Texas subjects? Controversial, to say the least.



If anyone wants more detail, www.mercola.com

[Challenger Grim]

Conventional medicine does not have a good record on cancer treatments--well documented, if only you'd look. A reason Jobs lasted as long as he did appears to be that most of the years after he got his initial cancer diagnosis could be because he avoided conventional treatments for the most part. Things went blooie quickly after he finally got some. Some alternative-medicine practitioners cite patients that have lasted for decades, sometimes becoming cancer-free.

Unrelated to vaccines.

More to the point, vaccines, why the hell do you think you know the benefits outweigh the drawbacks? To be sure in some cases they do benefit more than harm, but Big Medicine and Big Government (FDA included) are monsters from what I have read. Have you not heard of Merck's Gardasil, the vaccine Rick Perry attempted to push on his Texas subjects? Controversial, to say the least.

Yeah, I guess that's why every time a population stops with vaccine treatments, the corresponding rates of those disease begin skyrocketing.

What's the only thing worse than a regular conspiracy nut? A medical-conspiracy nut. I guess we have all that nasty "conventional" medicine to thank for increasing life spans.

What a tool.

[Augustine2004]

Unrelated to vaccines.

But they do show the government only makes a show of taking the welfare of the people to its heart. If cancer, then why not virii also?

Yeah, I guess that's why every time a population stops with vaccine treatments, the corresponding rates of those disease begin skyrocketing.

There are some cases especially in the beginning that you can cite. What else? I guess you are not going to check out www.mercola.com.

What's the only thing worse than a regular conspiracy nut? A medical-conspiracy nut. I guess we have all that nasty "conventional" medicine to thank for increasing life spans.

You are like One Bad Pig, you are stuck on the 'the government loves us and takes care of us' cloud.

What a tool.

'Fool'? No, you are the fool. Try to prove that the government does more good than bad. One Bad Pig doesn't seem to be trying at all.

[lilpixieofterror]

Vaccines? Well, not quite. It may be much better to just keep your immune system as healthy as it can be. For one thing, the way vaccines are made now, they cause many side effects, some of which can be fatal.

Pretty much any medical procedure has some sort of side effect that comes with it; however; I'd rather take the slight risk with getting a shot then the much bigger risk of catching some of the stuff they protect against.

[lilpixieofterror]

Unrelated to vaccines.


Yeah, I guess that's why every time a population stops with vaccine treatments, the corresponding rates of those disease begin skyrocketing.

What's the only thing worse than a regular conspiracy nut? A medical-conspiracy nut. I guess we have all that nasty "conventional" medicine to thank for increasing life spans.

What a tool.

Augustine pretty much sees everything as a conspiracy, there's a reason I don't interact with him much since it's kind of hard to debate with a person that believes everybody is out to get you.

[Augustine2004]

Pretty much any medical procedure has some sort of side effect that comes with it; however; I'd rather take the slight risk with getting a shot then the much bigger risk of catching some of the stuff they protect against.

Like you know anything. 'Slight'? Not!


Read this article http://healthimpactnews.com/2011/coc...-for-children/
And ask yourself: if that's true, how come the government lets Coca-cola get away with that!?