An Open Challenge to Norman Geisler

[KingsGambit]

Isn't Enns one of the big shots over at Biologos?

No. Biologos did not renew his contract because they wanted to go in a more evangelical-type direction. As a TE who has been wanting Biologos to shed some of their theological-liberal weight, I applaud the move, though I honestly think it would be best if Denis Lamoureux and other TE Christians perhaps start their own organization; I bet he could get Doug Jacoby on board.

[Rational Gaze]

I can see why people would want to distance themselves from Enns. I watched a video of him discussing Adam, Eve, and Genesis, and whilst he made a lot of good points, he also made a ton of really horrendous wishy-washy liberal arguments too, which was annoying.

[Rayado]

No. Biologos did not renew his contract because they wanted to go in a more evangelical-type direction. As a TE who has been wanting Biologos to shed some of their theological-liberal weight, I applaud the move, though I honestly think it would be best if Denis Lamoureux and other TE Christians perhaps start their own organization; I bet he could get Doug Jacoby on board.

Interesting. I remember them being awfully accomodationist.

[Teluog]

I believe he is, but thank God he's not the threat that Mike Licona is!

You'd think that Geisler should be picking on Enns instead of Licona.

[Manwë Súlimo]

You'd think he would know his Enns and Outs by now.

[KingsGambit]

You'd think that Geisler should be picking on Enns instead of Licona.

On Geisler's Facebook page, I saw a commenter ask about Enns, and the official response (which, to be fair, Geisler surely didn't write himself) just directed the commenter to his review of a book that Enns had publicly supported.

[KingsGambit]

You'd think he would know his Enns and Outs by now.

[Kenny]

You'd think that Geisler should be picking on Enns instead of Licona.

Well, to play Geisler’s advocate for a second, I think I know where he might be coming from when it comes to things like this.

Licona is on the inside of Evangelicalism whereas Enns is out (H/T Manwe for this awful punn). Granting Geisler his huge whopper of a premise that Licona’s view of Scripture his highly corrosive to our view of the authority of Scripture, Licona (given that premise, mind you) is likely more of a threat to Evangelicalism than Enns is. We can see that Enn's view is clearly at odds with a high view of the authority of Scripture and are not likely to be taken in by it; not so (given Geisler’s premise) with Licona.

Now, of course, I think the premise I granted for the sake of argument above is way off base to begin with. But still, I can see why his reasoning from that premise could easily take him to the position that Licona is more of a threat to Evangelicalism than are many outsiders.

[Raphael]

You'd think he would know his Enns and Outs by now.

commit a pun like that again and we'll make sure you are exiled to Canada.

[jpholding]

You'd think that Geisler should be picking on Enns instead of Licona.

To be fair, he does devote a whole chapter to Enns in Defending Inerrancy.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

commit a pun like that again and we'll make sure you are exiled to Canada.

Why not just exile him right now?

[Rational Gaze]

Why not just exile him right now?

Well, Canada is a Commonwealth Realm. Maybe if we wrote a letter to Queen Elizabeth II, explaining just how big a threat Manwe is to young women everywhere, then maybe she'd arrange for the SAS to exfiltrate him.

[OU812]

You'd think he would know his Enns and Outs by now.

And HE says I'M "doing it wrong"!!

[ApologiaPhoenix]

Someone's MLOCD is kicking in again.

http://normangeisler.net/articles/Li...Roundtable.htm

Let's look at some highlights.

Indeed, Copan and Blomberg need to apologize for impugning the motives and character of scholars who are critical of Licona’s aberrant views. Name calling like “bullying” adds nothing to civil dialogue but only brings discredit on those who use such charges.

Pot calling the kettle black anyone?

Licona made a big issue about the alleged inappropriate use of the internet to critique his views. However, ironically, Licona and his supporters have engaged in an abusive use of the internet to attack their critics. The most outlandish example is Licona’s approval of a cartoon caricature ridiculing a critic of his view which was produced by Licona’s son-in-law and his friend!

Can someone please make sure Geisler gets the message again for the umpteenth time?

I DID NOT PRODUCE THE VIDEO!

What researching methods does Geisler use that he does not get that?

[ApologiaPhoenix]

Here is the link to the roundtable discussion.

http://www.risenjesus.com/images/sto...of%20jesus.pdf