Its official, Trump now under investigation.

[Charles]

You can take a boy to church, but you can't make him think.

I guess the problem was and is that I cannot stop thinking.

[Charles]

You must be a bigot then.


When Christians say that about anything we are told we are bigots. You have free speech as long as it agrees with what the liberals believe. If not you are a bigot and a racist, a homophobe and inhuman.

I may have used the last word about the idea of Hell. Apart from that I have not called anyone bigot, racist or homophobe in here.

[One Bad Pig]

I guess the problem was and is that I cannot stop thinking.

I was actually being tongue in cheek (hence the smilie), playing off the adage, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

[Charles]

I was actually being tongue in cheek (hence the smilie), playing off the adage, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

I thought of that one myself.

[One Bad Pig]

You must be a bigot then.


When Christians say that about anything we are told we are bigots. You have free speech as long as it agrees with what the liberals believe. If not you are a bigot and a racist, a homophobe and inhuman.

I don't think we have license to reply in kind, though.

[Sparko]

I may have used the last word about the idea of Hell. Apart from that I have not called anyone bigot, racist or homophobe in here.

I didn't say you did. I was commenting on the liberal culture in America. Like when wedding shop owned by Christians said they don't support Gay marriage because of the bible and were fined and called bigots.

[Charles]

I didn't say you did. I was commenting on the liberal culture in America. Like when wedding shop owned by Christians said they don't support Gay marriage because of the bible and were fined and called bigots.

I have no problem with such shops. Though I am not gay I would just not use them. If others want to support them it is up to them.

[Sparko]

I don't think we have license to reply in kind, though.

Are you disagreeing with me, bigot?

[Sparko]

I have no problem with such shops. Though I am not gay I would just not use them. If others want to support them it is up to them.

good answer.

[Catholicity]

Even if he had a "shady deal" with some Russian 10 years ago, how is something he has done 10 years ago "obstruction of justice" in regards to being President? You can't impeach someone for something they did a decade before they were even President.

Bear in mind here Sparky, I'm not on a witch hunt, I'm interested in Trump's prior testimony, and why he's retracted it. My current interest is strictly in the truth. Has Trump or has he not been playing into the hands of the Russians during his campaign and while in office? He certainly should at the very least be avoiding ALL appearance of impropriety which he is not and that makes for a concern. My hope is that the truth will come out one way or the other in a decent investigation. Its not just the democrats that are concerned, republicans are concerned too. I have an interest in neither party.

[Catholicity]

I have no problem with such shops. Though I am not gay I would just not use them. If others want to support them it is up to them.

That's freedom of private business. If someone wants to set up shop they should have a sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." I'm not sure its good for business, but at the same time, frivolous lawsuits are the bane of my existence. If you want a cake photographer or minister, find one who will do it.

[Tassman]

That's freedom of private business. If someone wants to set up shop they should have a sign that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone." I'm not sure its good for business, but at the same time, frivolous lawsuits are the bane of my existence. If you want a cake photographer or minister, find one who will do it.

The problem for the likes of you is, of course, that to refuse survive to anyone of whom you disapprove (blacks, gays, Jews etc) is contrary to the Civil Rights Act, which guarantees all citizens equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment.

[Tassman]

You can take a boy to church, but you can't make him think.

I would have thought that "thinking" is the last thing you need when indoctrinating a child into the arcane mysteries of religion.

[Darth Executor]

The problem for the likes of you is, of course, that to refuse survive to anyone of whom you disapprove (blacks, gays, Jews etc) is contrary to the Civil Rights Act, which guarantees all citizens equal protection of the laws under the Fourteenth Amendment.

What does protection of the laws under the fourteenth amendment have to do with private businesses? The civil rights act is unconstitutional. You don't have the right to not be discriminated against by non-government actors.

[Tassman]

What does protection of the laws under the fourteenth amendment have to do with private businesses? The civil rights act is unconstitutional. You don't have the right to not be discriminated against by non-government actors.

Incorrect! The Supreme Court upheld the Civil Rights Act of 1964 application to the private sector on the grounds that Congress has the power to regulate commerce between the States. The landmark case Heart of Atlanta Motel v. United States established the constitutionality of the law. It seems that the only people who object to it are those who (erroneously) believe that they have a special right to discriminate against those of whom they dislike or disapprove.