occupy wall street starting to piss off residents

[rogue06]

This is both untrue and unfair. With virtually EVERYBODY having a camera in their pocket these days in the states, cops are ALWAYS concerned about how their actions are being portrayed. Sure there are rogue meanies, but they get the attention they deserve. It is not unusual for police officers to be dismissed due to their abuse of power, when they are abusive.

Just couldn't resist the pot shot could you

[Cow Poke]

Just couldn't resist the pot shot could you

I would have been terribly disappointed had you not noticed that.

[CodewordConduit]

Err, they didn't just smash a few windows and stole a few clothes, they incinerated buildings and murdered people.
I think corruption is a problem, but the solution should not be to allow lawlessness to prevail. As it stands, bad cops have to do bad things in the shadows (or at least try to). Swinging in the opposite direction means all bad people, not just bad cops, can do whatever they want with little to no reprisal. Not sure giving the police more power is necessary though. To me it just sounds like the authorities were not prepared for something like that so when the riots came they were too disorganized to respond in a timely manner.

Worse happens in football riots all the time, the attention was disproportionate, is all.

Here's something you'll also like: the dude crapping on the car kinda looks like Shaggy, doesn't he? Good thing cars can't get headaches, or we'd really be in for a pictorial treat. :p

Ahhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooo every time when I've forgotten him!

CP, I put the caveat about a few good ones specifically with you in mind. No offence but I've had too much crap off the regional force, as have far too many of my friends and acquaintences, for me to even begin to start talking kindly about them as an organization. Make whatever judgements you will about myself and the company I keep, given the above comment; but there's no point taking this further. Be well

[Cow Poke]

CP, I put the caveat about a few good ones specifically with you in mind. No offence but I've had too much crap off the regional force, as have far too many of my friends and acquaintences, for me to even begin to start talking kindly about them as an organization. Make whatever judgements you will about myself and the company I keep, given the above comment; but there's no point taking this further. Be well

I specifically mentioned the States, knowing you are in the UK. I think the media's focus on "outting" bad cops has been deserved and effective. As for no point in taking this further --- you know me better than that!

You be well, as well!

[Darth Executor]

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/1...violent-means/

Occupy LA speaker calling for the murder of the "bourgeois".

[rogue06]

Organizer admits to paying ‘Occupy DC’ protesters

A liberal organizer told the Daily Caller on Thursday afternoon that he paid some Hispanics to attend “Occupy DC” protests happening in the nation’s capital.

The DC attended the protest event, an expansion of the “Occupy Wall Street” movement that began in New York City. Some aspects of the protest, it turned out, are more Astroturf than grassroots.

One group of about ten Hispanic protesters marched behind a Caucasian individual from the DC Tenants Advocacy Coalition, a non-profit organization dedicated to supporting rent control in Washington, D.C.


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Now its only ten in a much larger group but you have to wonder if there are more like this. Especially since they are appearing to be advertising for protesters in New York

Occupy Wall Street: Are protesters being paid?

A reader at the conservative blog PowerLine has spotted a Craigslist ad from New York's progressive Working Families Party, which is apparently looking to hire people for $350 to $650 a week to "fight to hold Wall Street accountable." (See a screenshot below.) The "immediate hires" must be "outgoing, articulate, dedicated, determined," and "energetic communicators," the ad says.


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And in Chicago one protester claimed he's being paid $22 and hour - plus overtime - to protest "corporate greed."

Occupy Chicago Protestor Getting Paid $22/Hour Plus Overtime?

A Chicago-based "Occupy Wall Street" protestor is allegedly getting paid -- more than many Americans with actual jobs -- to protest corporate greed and the unemployment rate in the United States.

Business Insider has obtained a video interview of a seemingly well-informed Chicago protestor who mentions -- almost in passing -- that he gets paid $22 an hour plus overtime to participate in a Chicago offshoot of the "Occupy Wall Street" protests.


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[Cow Poke]

Now its only ten in a much larger group but you have to wonder if there are more like this. Especially since they are appearing to be advertising for protesters in New York

It's called "Community Organizing"

[Thersites]

I still think there is a legitimate sentiment here. It ain't all astroturf.

[rogue06]

I still think there is a legitimate sentiment here. It ain't all astroturf.

Of course there is a legitimate sentiment out there, even if the protesters can't express it very well themselves when they're asked.

[Chrs]

This is both untrue and unfair. With virtually EVERYBODY having a camera in their pocket these days in the states, cops are ALWAYS concerned about how their actions are being portrayed. Sure there are rogue meanies, but they get the attention they deserve. It is not unusual for police officers to be dismissed due to their abuse of power, when they are abusive.

The police do tend to try and prosecute people for videoing them. Admittedly they tend to get thrown out by judges but it's scary

[Sparko]

arrgh. These morons are hanging around downtown Louisville too. They don't even have a clue what they are protesting or what they want to accomplish. It's just a big "sit in" with no purpose.

The idiots camped out in back of our building for something like 2 weeks, just standing around doing nothing. When asked what they were protesting, they couldn't give any clear answers. Apparently they just dislike "big business" or something. After 2 weeks, someone told them that there weren't any big businesses in our building and that the bank buildings were down the road, so they all packed up and moved on to the bank building. LOL.

Stupid morons. The whole thing would make a great Seinfeld episode with Kramer walking around protesting nothing at all.

[Cow Poke]

The police do tend to try and prosecute people for videoing them. Admittedly they tend to get thrown out by judges but it's scary

Perhaps I'm a little "tainted" on this issue -- when I was a young police officer, a local news crew was following us around trying to catch somebody abusing power. We stopped a car for suspected DUI, and the news van parked across the street, filming. As my partner approached the vehicle, the driver leaned out the window and shot my partner in the chest twice at about 5 or 6 feet distances. I was in the passenger side of the police car radioing in the traffic stop, but I saw John return fire - all 6 shots of his .38 police special - and kill the driver. FORTUNATELY, John was wearing his "second chance" body armor under his uniform shirt, even though, in those days, it was HOT and very HEAVY. John got some pretty serious bruises to his sternum and a couple ribs, but was otherwise fine.

The news crew's video showed John look over at the news van, distracted by their "freedom of the press", which is why he wasn't watching the driver like he should have been. Had he not been wearing the body armor, he'd be dead.

ETA: I just realized that "videoing them" may have referred to videoing the PROTESTORS -- I assumed, perhaps falsely, that you were saying the POLICE were the "them" being videoed. Anyway, it was a good chance for me to tell another police story.

[Chrs]

Perhaps I'm a little "tainted" on this issue -- when I was a young police officer, a local news crew was following us around trying to catch somebody abusing power. We stopped a car for suspected DUI, and the news van parked across the street, filming. As my partner approached the vehicle, the driver leaned out the window and shot my partner in the chest twice at about 5 or 6 feet distances. I was in the passenger side of the police car radioing in the traffic stop, but I saw John return fire - all 6 shots of his .38 police special - and kill the driver. FORTUNATELY, John was wearing his "second chance" body armor under his uniform shirt, even though, in those days, it was HOT and very HEAVY. John got some pretty serious bruises to his sternum and a couple ribs, but was otherwise fine.

The news crew's video showed John look over at the news van, distracted by their "freedom of the press", which is why he wasn't watching the driver like he should have been. Had he not been wearing the body armor, he'd be dead.

Scenarios like this are incredibly rare and any damage done is minimal compared to the effect of not allowing people to film on-duty police. The police need to be accountable.

[Sparko]

Heck, they are holding "workshops" on protesting. Here is one of the "classes"

Occupy Louisville
Lots of fantastic (AND FREE) classes & workshops coming up at Occupy Louisville! Upcoming classes include: peacekeeping, information about the economic downturn, unisex belly dancing and YOGA!! Stay tuned for more details regarding dates and times!




Bellydance and Body Politics for All Genders, Ages, and AbilitiesWhenFri, October 14, 2pm – 3pm
Where6th & Jefferson 40202 (map)
DescriptionBellydance and Body Politics for All Genders, Ages, and Abilities Class

[Cow Poke]

Scenarios like this are incredibly rare and any damage done is minimal compared to the effect of not allowing people to film on-duty police. The police need to be accountable.

I agree 100% that police NEED to be accountable, but, for cryin' out loud, Chrs - EVERYBODY has a video camera in their pocket unless they have an ancient (or no) cell phone. And I wouldn't be so hasty to call it "incredibly rare" -- you'd just have to watch our local channel 13 news. This is TEXAS, mind you -- land of the free and home of the gun toters and amateur videographers!