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    This is an FFAF report.

    "A remarkable new study by Robert D. Woodberry has demonstrated conclusively that Protestant missionaries can take most of the credit for the rise and spread of stable democracies in the non-Western world. That is, the greater the number of Protestant missionaries per ten thousand local population in 1923, the higher the probability that by now a nation has achieved a stable democracy. The missionary effect is far greater than that of fifty other pertinent control variables, including gross domestic product (GDP) and whether or not a nation was a British colony.
    Woodberry not only identified this missionary effect but also gained important insights into why it occurred. Missionaries, he showed, contributed to the rise of stable democracies because they sponsored mass education, local printing and newspapers, and local voluntary organizations, including those having a nationalist and anticolonial orientation.
    These results so surprised social scientists that perhaps no study ever has been subjected to such intensive prepublication vetting. Woodberry was required to turn over his entire database to editors of the American Political Science Review, who subjected it to extensive, independent reanalysis. But after this vetting, the editors were satisfied that the robust statistical results were correct; in fact, they gave Woodberry considerably more space than the usual maximum to present his findings in detail.
    Protestant missionaries did more than advance democracy in non-Western societies. The local schools and colleges they established had a profound impact on these societies. The schools they started even sent some students off to study in Britain and America. It is amazing how many leaders of successful anticolonial movements in British colonies received university degrees in England—among them Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru of India and Jomo Kenyatta of Kenya, who led the Mau Mau Rebellion and ended up as the first president of independent Kenya.
    Less recognized are the lasting benefits of the missionary commitment to medicine and health.
    American and British Protestant missionaries made incredible investments in medical facilities in non-Western nations. As of 1910 they had established 111 medical schools, more than 1,000 dispensaries, and 576 hospitals. To sustain these massive efforts, the missionaries recruited and trained local doctors and nurses, who soon greatly outnumbered the Western missionaries. These efforts made a great difference in places that otherwise would have lacked access to modern medicine. And the benefits have lived on.
    Once again, it is research by Robert Woodberry that reveals the long-term influence. His study showed that the higher the number of Protestant missionaries per one thousand population in a nation in 1923, the lower that nation’s infant-mortality rate in 2000—an effect more than nine times as large as the effect of current GDP per capita. Similarly, the 1923 missionary rate was strongly positively correlated with a nation’s life expectancy in 2000." - Rodney Stark (sociologist of religion), "How the West Won: The Neglected Story of the Triumph of Modernity"

    Read the study here:
    http://www.academia.edu/2128659/The_...eral_Democracy
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

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  • #2
    Originally posted by tabibito View Post
    This is an FFAF report.

    "A remarkable new study by Robert D. Woodberry has demonstrated conclusively that Protestant missionaries can take most of the credit for the rise and spread of stable democracies in the non-Western world. That is, the greater the number of Protestant missionaries per ten thousand local population in 1923, the higher the probability that by now a nation has achieved a stable democracy. The missionary effect is far greater than that of fifty other pertinent control variables, including gross domestic product (GDP) and whether or not a nation was a British colony.
    Woodberry not only identified this missionary effect but also gained important insights into why it occurred. Missionaries, he showed, contributed to the rise of stable democracies because they sponsored mass education, local printing and newspapers, and local voluntary organizations, including those having a nationalist and anticolonial orientation.
    These results so surprised social scientists that perhaps no study ever has been subjected to such intensive prepublication vetting. Woodberry was required to turn over his entire database to editors of the American Political Science Review, who subjected it to extensive, independent reanalysis. But after this vetting, the editors were satisfied that the robust statistical results were correct; in fact, they gave Woodberry considerably more space than the usual maximum to present his findings in detail.
    Protestant missionaries did more than advance democracy in non-Western societies. The local schools and colleges they established had a profound impact on these societies. The schools they started even sent some students off to study in Britain and America. It is amazing how many leaders of successful anticolonial movements in British colonies received university degrees in England—among them Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru of India and Jomo Kenyatta of Kenya, who led the Mau Mau Rebellion and ended up as the first president of independent Kenya.
    Less recognized are the lasting benefits of the missionary commitment to medicine and health.
    American and British Protestant missionaries made incredible investments in medical facilities in non-Western nations. As of 1910 they had established 111 medical schools, more than 1,000 dispensaries, and 576 hospitals. To sustain these massive efforts, the missionaries recruited and trained local doctors and nurses, who soon greatly outnumbered the Western missionaries. These efforts made a great difference in places that otherwise would have lacked access to modern medicine. And the benefits have lived on.
    Once again, it is research by Robert Woodberry that reveals the long-term influence. His study showed that the higher the number of Protestant missionaries per one thousand population in a nation in 1923, the lower that nation’s infant-mortality rate in 2000—an effect more than nine times as large as the effect of current GDP per capita. Similarly, the 1923 missionary rate was strongly positively correlated with a nation’s life expectancy in 2000." - Rodney Stark (sociologist of religion), "How the West Won: The Neglected Story of the Triumph of Modernity"

    Read the study here:
    http://www.academia.edu/2128659/The_...eral_Democracy
    Very interesting...
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    • #3
      Originally posted by tabibito View Post
      "A remarkable new study by Robert D. Woodberry has demonstrated conclusively that Protestant missionaries can take most of the credit for the rise and spread of stable democracies in the non-Western world."
      On behalf of all Christians I'd like to apologise for that.
      "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

      There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
        On behalf of all Christians I'd like to apologise for that.
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #5
          Is democracy inherently a good thing though?
          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            Is democracy inherently a good thing though?
            "Worst form of government, except for all others that have been tried from time to time."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jin-roh View Post
              "Worst form of government, except for all others that have been tried from time to time."
              Well as Christians we are Monarchists - right?
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jin-roh View Post
                "Worst form of government, except for all others that have been tried from time to time."
                That's how I feel about capitalism.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by seer View Post
                  Well as Christians we are Monarchists - right?
                  There's that Fueurbachian talk again.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    That's how I feel about capitalism.
                    Mixed results there for sure.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                      Is democracy inherently a good thing though?
                      Two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner? No. OTOH a Representative Democracy seems to have a lot of benefits.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner? No. OTOH a Representative Democracy seems to have a lot of benefits.
                        Representative Democracy (is there any other kind? I'm not familiar with any direct democracies, although some countries run referendums on things on a regular basis) seems more like a pack of wolves feasting on a sea of sheep.
                        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

                        There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
                          Representative Democracy (is there any other kind? I'm not familiar with any direct democracies, although some countries run referendums on things on a regular basis) seems more like a pack of wolves feasting on a sea of sheep.
                          Direct democracies - or true democracies - are rare. Above the City-State level, they become incredibly unwieldy. They have occurred historically and there are probably pocket ones in modern times but they are not a practical form of governance.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tabibito View Post
                            This is an FFAF report.

                            "A remarkable new study by Robert D. Woodberry has demonstrated conclusively that Protestant missionaries can take most of the credit for the rise and spread of stable democracies in the non-Western world. That is, the greater the number of Protestant missionaries per ten thousand local population in 1923, the higher the probability that by now a nation has achieved a stable democracy. The missionary effect is far greater than that of fifty other pertinent control variables, including gross domestic product (GDP) and whether or not a nation was a British colony.
                            Woodberry not only identified this missionary effect but also gained important insights into why it occurred. Missionaries, he showed, contributed to the rise of stable democracies because they sponsored mass education, local printing and newspapers, and local voluntary organizations, including those having a nationalist and anticolonial orientation.
                            These results so surprised social scientists that perhaps no study ever has been subjected to such intensive prepublication vetting. Woodberry was required to turn over his entire database to editors of the American Political Science Review, who subjected it to extensive, independent reanalysis. But after this vetting, the editors were satisfied that the robust statistical results were correct; in fact, they gave Woodberry considerably more space than the usual maximum to present his findings in detail.
                            Protestant missionaries did more than advance democracy in non-Western societies. The local schools and colleges they established had a profound impact on these societies. The schools they started even sent some students off to study in Britain and America. It is amazing how many leaders of successful anticolonial movements in British colonies received university degrees in England—among them Mahatma Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru of India and Jomo Kenyatta of Kenya, who led the Mau Mau Rebellion and ended up as the first president of independent Kenya.
                            Less recognized are the lasting benefits of the missionary commitment to medicine and health.
                            American and British Protestant missionaries made incredible investments in medical facilities in non-Western nations. As of 1910 they had established 111 medical schools, more than 1,000 dispensaries, and 576 hospitals. To sustain these massive efforts, the missionaries recruited and trained local doctors and nurses, who soon greatly outnumbered the Western missionaries. These efforts made a great difference in places that otherwise would have lacked access to modern medicine. And the benefits have lived on.
                            Once again, it is research by Robert Woodberry that reveals the long-term influence. His study showed that the higher the number of Protestant missionaries per one thousand population in a nation in 1923, the lower that nation’s infant-mortality rate in 2000—an effect more than nine times as large as the effect of current GDP per capita. Similarly, the 1923 missionary rate was strongly positively correlated with a nation’s life expectancy in 2000." - Rodney Stark (sociologist of religion), "How the West Won: The Neglected Story of the Triumph of Modernity"

                            Read the study here:
                            http://www.academia.edu/2128659/The_...eral_Democracy
                            About what one would expect from an Evangelical professor on the faculty of a Baptist University and, given the peer reviews, probably accurate as far as it goes. But one wonders whether the slaughtered and disposed natives in the areas conquered by the Christian colonial invasions would see it in the same self-congratulatory way.

                            E.g. “From the colonial period of the early 1500s through the twentieth century, the indigenous peoples of the Americas have experienced massacres, torture, terror, sexual abuse, systematic military occupations, removals of Indigenous peoples from their ancestral territories, forced removal of Native American children to military-like boarding schools, allotment, and a policy of termination.....” - 'Yes, Native Americans Were the Victims of Genocide'; Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz.

                            OR:

                            “In places like Australia, New Zealand, Canada settler colonialism caused the indigenous population to decrease by over half after becoming a British colony. Foreign land viewed as attractive for settlement was declared as terra nullius or "nobody's land". The indigenous inhabitants were therefore denied any sovereignty or property rights in the eyes of the British. This justified invasion and the violent seizure of native land to create colonies populated by British settlers. Colonization like this usually caused a large decrease in the indigenous population from war, newly introduced diseases, massacre by colonists and attempts at forced assimilation...” - 'Oxford bibliographies', cited Wiki
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • #15
                              New Zealand at least, was never declared Terra Nullus.
                              1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                              .
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                              Scripture before Tradition:
                              but that won't prevent others from
                              taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                              of the right to call yourself Christian.

                              ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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