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Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostYou're seeing this as a good thing? If you try as hard as you can, and lose, give up the next time?
Last edited by Leonhard; 06-21-2017, 01:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Roy View PostDenmark has less than 1/10 the number of incidents that the US does.
Denmark, 2017 Population: 5,711,432
USA, 2017 Population: 326,442,756
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There might be some comparison issues here."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostTeal I think the statistics gives a rate of 2 out of 100000 gun related homicides per year for Denmark, but 10 out of 100000 for the US, but I'll see if I can find some good statistics.
Might be interesting to try it by state instead - pick a strong gun control state and a weak gun control state and see how the three compare (as long as you don't use Texas, California or New York).
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostIt was the only wise decision to be made. The US was protected by two gigantic walls of ocean, and you had an industry ten times bigger than Germany. We were one-tenth the size, at a historical disadvantage following WWI, and next door neighbors.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostIt was the only wise decision to be made. The US was protected by two gigantic walls of ocean, and you had an industry ten times bigger than Germany. We were one-tenth the size, at a historical disadvantage following WWI, and next door neighbors.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI never said that the US should just change its gun laws overnight. The situation is vastly different. Denmark came out of three different wars with the Germans, one 1864, where we fought as hard as we could, and got decimated. Then by Kaiser Wilhelm in WWI, where we surrendered, then by Führer Adolf Hitler in WWII, where again, we surrendered. The only guns the resistance movement had were the ones dropped by the British air force, or cache's hidden by the danish army. Though a few places managed to start a secret production of machine guns.
Because of these occupations, bent on controlling the danish populations, there were no machine guns, or even many guns period owned by ordinary danes. I don't know much about the development of gun laws, but they've been strict for a long time.
The same situation hasn't plaid out in the US. How many billions of guns and bullets are lying around in the US? I'm sure its an amount no one could hope to ever control. Even if semi-automatic weapons were banned for civilian use, how on Earth would anyone ever get them back? Anyone with a shovel could bury them, or stuff a cache of them in a mineshaft, or just hide them in the attic. Even if the entire US army was deployed, sweeping the US from East to West I don't see how all the weapons could be retrieved.
So no the situation is different, and while I think you guys are crazy for being so liberal with guns, as I think the Fins are crazy. I understand that the situations aren't comparable. Just that, if you do have a country with nearly no weapons, the police can rest a bit more easy.
I'd have to ask a patrol officer. Wish I could tell you. My guess is that they simple don't have the same gun anxiety that a lot of US officers have to deal with.
Taking guns away from ordinary citizens would not change any of those numbers except perhaps accidental shootings. disarming the citizens only makes it easier for the criminals to have power, or the government.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostFinland, Sweden, Denmark, Holland. You all sound like you speak garbled German to me.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostFinnish is rather different than the rest of the above.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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