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On Bertrand Russell’s argument against the First Cause Argument for God's Existence.

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  • #46
    Originally posted by 37818 View Post
    crepuscule,

    God caused beings to be self willed and so to be responsible for their own actions.
    And yet, even as he was creating and programming them, he knew via his omniscience exactly what their decisions would be. That's not free-will, it's predestination.
    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Tassman View Post
      And yet, even as he was creating and programming them, he knew via his omniscience exactly what their decisions would be. That's not free-will, it's predestination.
      yup. ⛄
      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
      .
      ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
      Scripture before Tradition:
      but that won't prevent others from
      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
      of the right to call yourself Christian.

      ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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      • #48
        Originally posted by tabibito View Post
        yup. ⛄
        So you're a Calvinist, presumably?
        “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Tassman View Post
          So you're a Calvinist, presumably?
          The yup was agreeing with your conclusion (and the inescapable chain of logic leading to that conclusion.)

          Of the Calvinist teachings with which I am familiar, * the best that can be said is: they are an affront.
          * (with the exception of one of Calvin's teachings, which modern Calvinists have abandoned anyway)
          1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
          .
          ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
          Scripture before Tradition:
          but that won't prevent others from
          taking it upon themselves to deprive you
          of the right to call yourself Christian.

          ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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