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    Thread: Son of God

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      Son of God

      This is not a debate thread.

      Muslims who are familiar with Christianity know that when Christians call Jesus the "Son of God," they do not mean that Father God had sexual congress with Mary. Looking at Muslims worldwide, what percentage have had enough contact with Christianity to understand this?

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      Re: Son of God

      Dan, the Quran's teachings are not the topic of this thread.

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      Re: Son of God

      Quote Originally posted by RBerman View Post
      This is not a debate thread.

      Muslims who are familiar with Christianity know that when Christians call Jesus the "Son of God," they do not mean that Father God had sexual congress with Mary. Looking at Muslims worldwide, what percentage have had enough contact with Christianity to understand this?
      Wouldn't that be very difficult to estimate on many would admit to this statement, of Muslim descendent? This would go against all the principle about the oneness of God, Does it? See Article:

      For (only) thalaatha trinity - explanation: LINK
      Khatim an-Nabuwwah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khatim_an-NLabuwwah
      and, last:
      Khidr: LINK, To Sufis, al-Khiḍr holds a very dear place. Although amongst the Sunni scholars there is a difference of opinion about him being still alive, amongst Sunni Sufis there is almost a consensus that al-Khiḍr is still alive, with many respected figures and shaykhs, and prominent leaders claiming having had personal encounters with him. Examples of those who had claim this are Ghawth Abd al-Qadir al-Jilani, Imam an-Nawawi, Muhyideen Ibn Arabi, Sidi Abdul Aziz ad-Dabbagh and Ahmad ibn Idris al-Fasi. Ibn 'Ata' Allah in Lata'if al-Minan (1:84-98) states that there is consensus among the Sufis that al-Khiḍr is alive.
      Also if you could read the next paragraph, recently I had been conversing about this same topic and something really struck me on the Apostle Paul's writings - on the law, wasn't he talking about the law in a general sense, to everyone?

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      There has already been for you an excellent pattern in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, "Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from whatever you worship other than Allah . We have denied you, and there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone
      This was my response back to the statement:

      The comment that you posted sounds comparable to a divorce between the two peoples - talaq, the formula of repudiation, three times. The first two times the talaq is pronounced, it may be withdrawn. But the third time it is pronounced, the divorce is irrevocable.

      So wouldn't this be comparable to the difference between Kafir and Munafiq - those who might believe, yet hide it or are afraid, but from which side of the argument? And another, What the law was meant to do (Romans 7:7) – was to be avoidance to sin, right? To be united as a people back to God, a way of life - a path, directing the people on how to live and maintain their relationship with God (see Luke 1:6 Both of them were righteous in the sight of God, observing all the Lord’s commands and decrees blamelessly and in Genesis 17:1 -“I am God Almighty; walk before me faithfully and be blameless.) - the statement naaseh v'nishma--we will do and we will hear. ... echoes in every Jewish person ears, as well as in the ears of every Muslim, to the Sharia (the path or direction in which to walk blamelessly, and to the judgments)

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      Re: Son of God

      Dan, I'm really not interested in hearing from Christians in this thread. I was hoping that Muslims would tell me how difficult it is for Muslims worldwide to understand what Christians actually mean in calling Christ "Son of God." But apparently there aren't any Muslims around.

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      Re: Son of God

      You are right, Dan. That is not the topic of this thread. Please stop posting in this thread.

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      Re: Son of God

      Quote Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View Post
      Now thats a very clear example of Rberman's narrow-mindedness, selective thinking and intolerance... you are free to post on any thread just as much as I am free to do so.. Telling me what to do and not to do is the height of irrationality on this thread in this day and age.
      Or you could just be gracious enough to respect his wishes and stop posting off-topic stuff here.

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