Thread: Gold
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October 26th 2011, 04:49 AM #16
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October 27th 2011, 08:39 AM #17
Re: Gold
Maybe the sin of the golden calf was that they made gold their god (and not that they made a calf), like is also written in Exodus 32:31,
Calf = עֵגֶל , "egel".
is from root "agal" = to circle, draw a circle.
like also "agalah" = wagon , written the same as "eglah"= heifer, she-calf.
"agalah" plural "agalot" to be found in Genesis 45:27,
Rashi:
So "calf" is a kind of a key...
Remember that Joseph was called "Tsafnat Pa'neiach"= revealer of hidden things (Genesis 41:45)
There is more to it ..Last edited by sylvius; October 27th 2011 at 08:41 AM.
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October 29th 2011, 03:51 AM #18
Re: Gold
צָפְנַת פַּעְנֵחַ,
Tsafnat Pa'neiach
Rashi:
chabad.org (the English translation shows up again!)
One remarkable thing about the name Tsafnat Pa'neiach is it's gematria 828.
828 = 1/2 x 1656
1656 being the amount of years before the flood.
wikipedia
And more: 828 = 4 x 207
207 being gematria of "or" = light.
Light about which Genesis 1:4 said:
"And God saw the light that it was good"
Good, טוֹב "tov", also was the gold of "erets hachavilah", the land of Havilah that was encircled by the Pishon, the one and first river that flowed out of Eden.
1656 is also full value of Tarshish, to where Jonah tried to escape away from before the face of Hashem, and from where King Solomon's ships came bearing gold and silver, ivory and monkeys and peacocks (1Kings 10:22).
while 828 is the full value of "teivah" = ark = the word as written with letters.
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Joseph got this name because of his interpretation of Pharao's dreams,
and especially because of his advice, Genesis 41:34,
וְחִמֵּשׁ אֶת אֶרֶץ
Rashi:
Rashi on Exodus 13:18,
And also Rashi on Genesis 14:14,
and next:
by which Rashi lets us know that he knows ..
(to be continued)
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October 29th 2011, 06:56 AM #19
Re: Gold
NT Joseph, the father of Jesus, and also Jesus (Mark 5:3) are called carpenters.
But carpenter is just translation of Greek τέκτων
"a ship's carpenter or builder", like Noach.
Noach, son of Adam = son of man. Genesis 5 gives the generation list of Adam,
only in the case of Lamech there is written "and he begot a son"
Genesis 5:28,
Rashi:
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So NT Joseph is like OT Joseph precisely in the quality of Tsafnat Paneiach.
Another Joseph came to lay Jesus' body in the grave, exactly at the beginning of Sabbath (where the Tetragrammaton is hidden in the beginletters of the last two words of Genesis 1:31 and the first two words of Genesis 2:1), which was also the beginning of the counting of the omer (second day of pesach) according to the Synoptici
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October 30th 2011, 05:27 AM #20
Re: Gold
Egypt is the world in which we live. Pharao is the ruler in this world. His dreams express the fear of the future. Sudden death and end of time are always on the lurk. Science has no answer,
like written in Genesis 41:8,
Hebrew "patar" = to interpret, solve.
"pitron" = solution.
The answer comes "from the other side",
Genesis 41:16,
Which means that there is no conclusive explanation. There always must be an "opening", little opening like a needle's eye.
The sin with the golden calf was that they made gold the coping-stone.
Exodus 32:4,
Little opening to be found in the letter "heh" of "hashishi", Genesis 1:31.
and to this alludes Genesis 41:34,
Without "heh" it would have read "yom shishi" .. of which gematria is 666.
And that's why 1 Kings 10:14.
Now I am sure since the beginletters of "shesh meiot shishim vashes kikar" count up to 666. It is about gematria It alludes at Genesis 1:31 and at the sin with the golden calf.
Genesis 41:34,
וְחִמֵּשׁ אֶת אֶרֶץ"v'chimesh et erets" = divide the land into five
also hints at gematria (= measuring of the land; greek "gč" = earth)
Mark 4:20, καὶ ἐκεῖνοί εἰσιν οἱ ἐπὶ τὴν γῆν τὴν καλὴν σπαρέντες, is also about gematria.
"a hundredfold", Hebrew מֵאָה שְׁעָרִים, has gematria 666.
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October 31st 2011, 04:08 AM #21
Re: Gold
Indeed gematria 828 seems to be the clue of Rashi's explanation:
Jewish side tick
"revealer of things that had been hidden" = "m'galeh mistarim" (40+3+30+5+40+60+400+200+10+40)
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November 2nd 2011, 03:41 AM #22
Re: Gold
From Rabbi Munk's "The wisdom in the Hebrew Alphabet", p.144:
Rabbi Munk is taking some things together here.
Exodus 3:13 :
And Moses said to God, "Behold I come to the children of Israel, and I say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, 'What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"and Exodus 5:3,
And they said, "The God of the Hebrews has happened upon us".
"The God of the Hebrews" alludes to the Joseph-story, Genesis 41:12,
And there with us was a Hebrew lad, a slave of the chief slaughterer, and we told him, and he interpreted our dreams for us; [for] each [of us], he interpreted according to his dream.
Rashi:
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"What is His Name and where is His place?" alludes to Exodus 3:15,
And God said further to Moses, "So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'The Lord God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' This is My name forever, and this is how I should be mentioned in every generation.
Rashi:
See:
This is my Name conceal it
Rabbi Munk stressed it because of מִסְתָּרִים, "mistarim", is written with an open "mem" at the beginning and a closed "mem" at the end.
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/ar...p/t-97738.html
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May 30th 2012, 03:37 PM #23
Re: Gold
Hi Sylvius:
Gold is also mentioned/or to be understood in this translation:
Baruch She'amar Created with Words
Baruch She-amar contains 87 words, the same numerical value as the word PAZ, “finest gold.” This alludes to the verse in Shir HaShirim 5:11: “His opening words, referring to P’sukei d’Zimra, were ‘finest gold’” (Mishneh B’rurah 51:1).
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May 31st 2012, 05:49 AM #24
Re: Gold
Hi Mitzi,
Very good!
"tov m'od"
May be read as "tov m'ed" ,
I learned from
( something great, I did forget
link posted in http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...of-Genesis-2-6)
http://thetrugmans.com/parsha_05_53_haazinu.shtml
Genesis 1:31,
וַיַּרְא אֱלֹהִים אֶת-כָּל-אֲשֶׁר עָשָׂה וְהִנֵּה-טוֹב מְאֹד
"tov m'ed" = "good from the source" ( = the "mist" of Genesis 2:6 translated in LXX with "pčgč" = fountain, source. )
So that's what defines the gold of Genesis 2:11, making it "paz".Last edited by sylvius; May 31st 2012 at 05:53 AM.

















































































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