Ty Rockwell explains the Beast of the East

[Cow Poke]

As I CLEARLY explained, YOU are the one claiming some sort of "less Islamic" in relation to what I've been saying. How much clearer do you need it, when I said, "the muslim people are not wanting to be 'less Islamic,' but to be LESS CONTROLLED by dictators?"

You don't really seem to get the Beast of the East, either, I said Satans brother is the Beast, who started Islam, meaning Islam is not the beast, but is what the beast does, and enables. Satan's brother, The Beast, is a PRINCIPALITY, a high ranking demonic spirit that rules nations.

This is so simple to understand, that if you don't, you are playing dumb, and being obtuse.

OK, Ty, here are your own words in witness against you.... You are either incredibly dishonest, and can just make things up at will, or have a really poor memory of what you claim....

How will you know the stop of the Islamic invasion of Europe? It is a matter of Influence. The Islamic people need not stop coming to Europe, but the Islamization of Europe's culture and laws will be stopped and reversed, as Christians return to being the dominating influence.

This is why I used the phrase "less Islamic".... I got that from you. You are your own worst enemy, Ty. Words MEAN things --- and YOU claimed the "Islamization of Europe's culture and laws will be stopped and reversed" --- how is that NOT saying that Europe will be "less Islamic"?

And PLEASE don't try to exclude Libya by virtue of it being on the AFRICAN Continent rather than "Europe" --- It's YOUR goofy prophecy, not mine.

[TyRockwell]

This must fall under "continuing revelation", cause this wasn't your view when you first began to "explain" the alleged prophecy.

No, the beast from the east has always been a principality, from my earliest mentions of it. I haven't changed anything from that definition in any way.

I told you, early on, that it was a principality, and connected it to the Book of Daniel, and to Ephesians 6:10-18.

You always seem to need explanation. And then you say I've not been consistent, when I really have been. Only you have taken the thread off course.

[TyRockwell]

OK, Ty, here are your own words in witness against you.... You are either incredibly dishonest, and can just make things up at will, or have a really poor memory of what you claim....

This is why I used the phrase "less Islamic".... I got that from you. You are your own worst enemy, Ty. Words MEAN things --- and YOU claimed the "Islamization of Europe's culture and laws will be stopped and reversed" --- how is that NOT saying that Europe will be "less Islamic"?

And PLEASE don't try to exclude Libya by virtue of it being on the AFRICAN Continent rather than "Europe" --- It's YOUR goofy prophecy, not mine.

Stop being obtuse. I'm not going to put up with you redefining the things I've said. I have plainly said,"no" I never said "less Islamic" in regard to Islamic nations.

Your statement saying, "I got that from you." is a falsehood. You admitted YOU said it.

This is ridiculous. You have no intent to have an honest discussion.

[Cow Poke]

No, the beast from the east has always been a principality, from my earliest mentions of it. I haven't changed snything from that definition in any way.

I told you, early on, that it was a principality, and connected it to the Book of Danie, and to Ephesians 6:10-18.

You always seem to need explanation. And then you say I've not been consistent, when I really have been. Only you have taken the thread off course.

Note --- you have FAILED to provide the proof I requested. Only CLAIMS that you have been consistent. Let's look at the FACTS, OK? Ty --- I'm going to QUOTE you DIRECTLY, using the QUOTE function... I'm sure you'll claim this is "twisting" your words, but here goes.... (bolding mine)

Of course, you know that there IS NO actual Islamic horde and military invasion going on. The result of the war against the Libyan dictator is going to be a reversal of the encroachment of Islamic law and culture into Europe. The Church will regain its dominant influence in culture and law. How do you put your finger on that, and say it happened right there, in place and time? A shift in influence is hard to measure mathematically. Only God can pull it off.

Wait, you just recently said it was that muslims don't "integrate" into society. It is the same thing as an invasion of a murderous religion, bent on domination, and forced conversion to Islam. That is the beast from the east. The book of Daniel calls them the beasts of Persia and Babylon, which were both allowed to live, in Dan. 7:12, which is why we are still dealing with them.

The word was about stopping the beast's (Islam's) invasion of France, and Europe, not about stopping an invasion of Libya by the Islamic religion.

The prophecy never says that Libya, or any other Muslim nation was being, or was going to be invaded by a beast from the east. It said the invasion of France by the beast of the East (Islamic rule, in law and culture) was going to be destroyed.

No, CP, I haven't moved the goalposts. You try to ADD goalposts. The goalposts are: France and Britian, leading a short war, that leads to destroying the Islamic beast's invasion of France and Europe.

A history lesson: France stopped the invasion of the Islamic hordes in 732 AD. End of history lesson. The prophecy said, "Just as, France stopped the invasion of Islam..., so will the power of invasion of the beast of the east be destroyed." It is talking about the invasion of Islamic rule, law and culture into France and Europe.

More evidence that France is standing against the invasion of Islamic spirits: Today, a new law went into effect in France that forbids the wearing of the 'habib' the full face veil Muslims force women to wear.

First, the prophecy never states that LIBYA was being invaded! I NEVER SAID THAT EITHER!! The prophecy said that France had stopped Islamic invasion in the 700s AD. In the same way, militarily, France and Britian would unite, and they did, to stop the present-day Islamic invasion into France and Europe. Re-read this statement several times, so you don't continue in your lack of reading (and hearing) COMPREHENSION. You too, rumtumtigger. Presently, there IS NO military islamic [lower case intentional] invasion. So, what kind of invasion is it? It is the spirit of islam. It is a beast-like spirit. It is a religious spirit of a false religion, that operates to control governments, either by religious dictates, or by 'strongman dictators' or both. France's and Britian's invasion serves to diminish islam's hold on the people and governments of islamic nations. At the same time, several islamic nations' citizens are in protest against its military-religious regimes. They are crying out for freedom and democracy!! They are crying out for freedom and democracy!! Their islamic religion, and their strongholds of power are failing them. Now, SECOND, the MANNER of islam's spirit's destruction. Islam is inferior to the Church, because the Church is the true faith. In the 700s, France and Britian were much more faithful to the faith of Jesus, and France was able to drive out the Muslim hordes through the p[ower of their faith, though their military played a significant part in it. In the same way, in recent years, there has been a renewal of Christian faith in France and England, and other European nations. Some of them are even turning away from socialism. The church in France, where Kim prophesied was commended, early in the prophecy for how they praised and worshiped the Lord. In such a manner, the Church's have regained their spiritual authority, and by faith, they are conqurerors, by God's Spirit, as in the 700s AD. THIRD, even if the nation remains predominantly Muslim for a time, that religious beast is headed to its demise, Gaddafi, gone or not. The same applies to other Muslim nations. They want out from under their military-religious dictatorships, and to have freedom and democracy, the same things that have given western Judeo-Christian nations the freedom to flourish under the control and influence of the faith of Jesus and the Church.

Now, Let the SPIN BEGIN!!!!!

[Cow Poke]

Stop being obtuse. I'm not going to put up with you redefining the things I've said. I have plainly said,"no" I never said "less Islamic" in regard to Islamic nations.

Now, just hang onto your panties, Ty --- read the quotes I just posted from you.

Your statement saying, "I got that from you." is a falsehood. You admitted YOU said it.

Yes, Ty --- I said "less Islamic" based on things YOU have said, and I just posted a bunch of ACTUAL QUOTES -- so feel free to commence (or continue) the SPIN!

This is ridiculous. You have no intent to have an honest discussion.

What I present is FACT, Ty, what you present is GOOFY stuff like....

I HAVE HAD TOO MUCH OF YOUR DUNG. NOW LEAVE MY THREAD, AND DO NOT COME BACK! NO MORE POSTING HERE! START ANOTHER THREAD, BUT DON'T USE MY NAME IN IT! BE GONE!!

You ignoramous nincompoop.

Get off my thread! You constantly have misrepresented what I have said. GO, LEAVE THIS THREAD.

Also, I've told the posters here many times to stop changing what I've said. I kicked Pilgrim out, and CP will likely be next.

PILGRIM, GET OFF MY THREAD, AND DON'T COME BACK. YOU ARE A NIT-WIT. NOW, LEAVE, you are not welcome here, in MY thread!

Pilgrim, GET OFF OF MY THREAD. GO AWAY, AND DON'T COME BACK. I'VE POINTED OUT YOUR SARCASM, AND I WON'T TOLERATE IT, ANYMORE. GET OFF MY THREAD. YOU AND YOUR SARCASM ARE SICK, SPENT TOILET TISSUE.

Now, get the heck out of my thread, dirt-bag.

You are a slithering, fork-tongued snake. Your intention is to play word games, trying to lay traps, to claim that I changed what I stated.

You are stinking, sick, spent toilet tissue.

You have no part in this thread, or this discussion. You are too late to the war. And, CP doesn't need any help in being dirty toilet paper.

You just keep on proving that your same old doctrinal antagonism has been the driving force compelling you to justify all the dirty methods that you are using, and have been using from the start of this thread. You are full of demons. The Lord rebuke you.

I always tell the truth. I do not lie. LEAVE THIS THREAD, CP. DO NOT POST in this thread, again! It is AGAINST forum decorum, and rules, to accuse me of telling a LIE.

I have a really nice life away from this site, so I sometimes don't come here every day. Who would want to put up with you snakes everyday, anyway?

I have seen no substantiation of me telling a lie. I do not lie. But, convenient typo for you, there. Now, get lost. Then get saved.

You are misbehaving, little girl. And you believe everything CP and Roto-6 post, which is just dumb. If you can't see what they have been doing, then you are willingly blind. Why take their side, so much, and not hold them to account for all they have said and done?

No, CP, you are going lower than that. You are deceiver and a disruptor, here in this thread for all your own selfish reasons. You are a bad person, CP, and not a good follower of Jesus, or a believer in him.

Listen, everyone, from NOW ON, heed this: No one answer a post for someone else! CP, you are the worst offender. You replied to a post I made to Rumtumtugger. Let her reply to her own, and you reply to only the posts that are directed to you.

no, buttwipe-o, he did not substantiate any "lie" he said I told!! I have not lied.

You think you are safe from hell because you can mouth the words that will cause people to think you are a Christian. But you are self-willed and not following Jesus. Your misbehavior toward me shows that all you have is a false religious front. • Text Edited by a Moderator: You haven't had the DECENCY to get off my thread, but have lied about me, saying I have changed my position. • You know that I have not changed my position, but you've used up plenty of thread saying I have. To top it off, you've said I lied, which I have not done. Your actions are not those any believer in Christ should do. Yes, I rebuke you, in the name of Jesus. The LORD rebukes you. I want you OFF of this site!

Leave this thread. There are too many of YOU here already.

Is that "honest discussion", Ty? Does that make you proud? Is that the kind of Spirit you listen to?

By the way, what is your fascination with "dirty spent toilet paper" --- is this a fetish of yours?

[TyRockwell]

The book of Daniel calls them the beasts of Persia and Babylon, which were both
allowed to live, in Dan. 7:12, which is why we are still dealing with them.
I have maintained, all along that principalities were, and are the beasts. All of your reposting of your selections from past posts are you not dealing with the fact, that: A principality is a beast.

[Cow Poke]

The book of Daniel calls them the beasts of Persia and Babylon, which were both
allowed to live, in Dan. 7:12, which is why we are still dealing with them.
I have maintained, all along that principalities were, and are the beasts. All of your reposting of your selections from past posts are you not dealing with the fact, that: A principality is a beast.

Wait.. my reposting of my selections of past posts... meaning.. if you said it in the past, it doesn't count? WOW, Ty --- you're sounding more and more like a Mormon every day!!!! They ALSO believe that "new" revelation can totally undo "past" revelation.

You claimed the beast of the East is NOT "Islam", yet I have posted NUMEROUS posts of YOURS where YOU equate the "beast of the East" to Islam.

You want honest discussion, Ty? Please deal with what you actually SAID, as "reposted".

[TyRockwell]

Wait.. my reposting of my selections of past posts... meaning.. if you said it in the past, it doesn't count? WOW, Ty --- you're sounding more and more like a Mormon every day!!!! They ALSO believe that "new" revelation can totally undo "past" revelation.

You claimed the beast of the East is NOT "Islam", yet I have posted NUMEROUS posts of YOURS where YOU equate the "beast of the East" to Islam.

You want honest discussion, Ty? Please deal with what you actually SAID, as "reposted".

I said a principality was the source and enabler of Islam.

[Sparko]

I hereby exorcize Satan and his brother, the demon of stupidity out of Ty Rockwell. Begone! In the Name of Elvis.

[TyRockwell]

The book of Daniel calls them beasts of Persia and Babylon,
allowed to live, in Dan. 7:12, which is why we are still dealing with them. They are principalities.

A principality is the source and empowerment, that is, enablement of Islam.
Nothing in this statement is something to be mocked, even in jest.

[Sparko]

Oh well, it was worth a shot anyway.

[Cow Poke]

I said a principality was the source and enabler of Islam.

Ty, do you even know what the TRUTH is?

Have you yet reached the age of accountability?

[TyRockwell]

Ty, do you even know what the TRUTH is?

Have you yet reached the age of accountability?

I do know what the truth is. Jesus said to the Father, "Thy word is truth."

I have reached the age of accountability. Have YOU? I ask, because you act like you don't understand SO MANY things. Then, when I try to explain them to you, you claim I have 'changed' my story, though I have not. This is dishonesty on your part.

[Cow Poke]

I do know what the truth is. Jesus said to the Father, "Thy word is truth."

I have reached the age of accountability. Have YOU? I ask, because you act like you don't understand SO MANY things. Then, when I try to explain them to you, you claim I have 'changed' my story, though I have not. This is dishonesty on your part.

Ty, you keep repeating this drivel about my "dishonesty", yet you have yet to show ONE SINGLE INSTANCE of me being dishonest, apart from your childish whining and false accusations.

On the other hand, I have posted NUMEROUS examples of your nonsense, and all you can do is bob and weave and duck and kabuki dance, just like your false prophet friend. I provided NUMEROUS examples of your varied explanations of "beast of the East" --- anybody with more than 3 brain cells would see a problem with consistency there.

But not you.

In this ONE QUOTE ALONE, you use "the beast's invasion", parenthetically inserting "Islam's". Any proper reading of that would indicate that you were equating the two.

The word was about stopping the beast's (Islam's) invasion of France, and Europe, not about stopping an invasion of Libya by the Islamic religion.

Please, feel free to continue the moronic SPIN, Ty.

[Cow Poke]

I have reached the age of accountability. Have YOU?

Ty,

Do you HONESTLY think that calling people "buttwipe-o" and "dirty toilet paper" and "ignoramous nincompoop" and "dirt-bag" and "SICK, SPENT TOILET TISSUE"... do you really think these are things an ADULT says?
My GRANDSON used to talk like that when he was FIVE.
What is your fascination with used toilet paper Ty? Is there something we should know?
This makes you sound like a raving lunatic, and it CERTAINLY doesn't make you sound "Christian".
You act like a potty-mouthed little brat, while calling everybody else names and, on top of that, "casting out demons" from us, while calling people "sick, spent toilet tissue".

You want to be treated like an adult, Ty? Try acting like one.