To Trinitarian Apologists: An Open Letter & Personal Request

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      To Trinitarian Apologists: An Open Letter & Personal Request

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      Re: To Trinitarian Apologists: An Open Letter & Personal Req

      Hello to you too.

      Before we spend hours constructing careful answers to 31 different questions, maybe you could spend a little time explaining and defending your own view. Also, this is not the correct subforum in which to debate basic Christian doctrine.

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      Quote Originally posted by RBerman View Post
      Hello to you too.

      Before we spend hours constructing careful answers to 31 different questions, maybe you could spend a little time explaining and defending your own view. Also, this is not the correct subforum in which to debate basic Christian doctrine.
      Also, is this your original work?
      I ask, because the same material is posted here.
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      Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


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      As you are aware, you will more than likely not find any answer we provide will meet your pre-conceived biases.
      I may not yet be as old as dirt, but dirt and I are starting to have an awful lot in common... Stephen Donaldson - Author of my favorite series (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant)


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      Re: To Trinitarian Apologists: An Open Letter & Personal Req

      So I am assuming you don't believe that Jesus is YHWH? If not...why?

      Perhaps instead of asking a bunch of questions in an interrogation type style, you could engage one question at a time in different threads. I am sure many here would be happy to engage with you.

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      Re: To Trinitarian Apologists: An Open Letter & Personal Req

      This smells awfully 'ish to me....
      "Preach the Gospel wherever you go, and when necessary, use words" - St. Frances of Assisi


      For a good clean read...here's a SciFi story written with a christian world view...

      "One: A New Beginning" by Lennie Stanfield

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      Pick a couple of points to discuss. Our rules state:

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      Re: To Trinitarian Apologists: An Open Letter & Personal Req

      Seeing that Jesus Christ is called the son of God about 50 times, but never called God the son, Jesus Christ is not God the son, but rather the son of God

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      Quote Originally posted by barley View Post
      Seeing that Jesus Christ is called the son of God about 50 times, but never called God the son, Jesus Christ is not God the son, but rather the son of God

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      He is simply called God, Wisdom, the Word, I AM, etc...
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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      He is simply called God, Wisdom, the Word, I AM, etc...
      Yes Moses is called god as well, as are those by whom the word of God came. Exodus 7:1, John 10:34-35

      God has no problem giving that title to those men of God who deserve it.

      like Jesus Christ.

      Like Moses

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      Quote Originally posted by barley View Post
      Yes Moses is called god as well, as are those by whom the word of God came. Exodus 7:1, John 10:34-35

      God has no problem giving that title to those men of God who deserve it.

      like Jesus Christ.

      Like Moses

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      Tired answers that have been answered for thousands of years
      I may not yet be as old as dirt, but dirt and I are starting to have an awful lot in common... Stephen Donaldson - Author of my favorite series (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant)


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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      Tired answers that have been answered for thousands of years
      yet you continue to ignore these truths and their implications.

      Sad. Very sad.

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      Quote Originally posted by barley View Post
      yet you continue to ignore these truths and their implications.
      Your "truths" have been exposed as falsehoods for thousands of years, yet you cling to them like Jack Dawson to a piece of refuse telling Rose that SHE is the stupid one...


      Sad. Very sad.
      I couldn't have said it better myself, Mr. Dawson...
      I may not yet be as old as dirt, but dirt and I are starting to have an awful lot in common... Stephen Donaldson - Author of my favorite series (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant)


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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      Your "truths" have been exposed as falsehoods for thousands of years, yet you cling to them like Jack Dawson to a piece of refuse telling Rose that SHE is the stupid one...




      I couldn't have said it better myself, Mr. Dawson...
      Yes Moses is called god as well, as are those by whom the word of God came. Exodus 7:1, John 10:34-35

      God has no problem giving that title to those men of God who deserve it.

      like Jesus Christ.

      Like Moses

      So you have exposed Exodus 7:1 and John 10:34-35 as falsehoods!

      I am sure that earned you some really big brownie points in God's heart.

      You have struck out.

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      Quote Originally posted by barley View Post
      Yes Moses is called god as well, as are those by whom the word of God came. Exodus 7:1, John 10:34-35

      God has no problem giving that title to those men of God who deserve it.

      like Jesus Christ.

      Like Moses

      barley
      Which just proves that "God" is a title and not an identity statement. "God" is a fiction! The father of Jesus Christ isn't!
      Decades ago I was given the nickname "apostoli" by an older Greek lady at a takeaway, because I was her favourite "Paul" and the tag stuck. Too many people named "Paul" in this world! No other significance in the tag...

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