December 2011 Screwballs PLUS Platinum Category Discussion

[Rational Gaze]

Screwball for this restaurant for accidentally serving bleach to two toddlers instead of water:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/horror-clea...092614709.html

[Andius]

Screwball to my internet for denying me to watch my football games. >_<

Oh well... at least I have ponies. ^^

[jpholding]

My little bro sends:


Head of the Catholic church faces charges for not wearing a seatbelt.

http://brisbanetimes.drive.com.au/mo...130-1o5u8.html

Some Jews were probably crying because of this screwy billboard.

Vodka ad boasting 'Christmas quality' at 'Hanukkah pricing' to come down amid complaints

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/1...id-complaints/

Those in favor of church-state separation are shouting over this idea...I'm not sure who to nominate here (if anyone).

Jesus or jail? Alabama town offers options for serving time

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...-serving-time/

Why all the pouting, crying and shouting? Screwballs are coming to town!

[moreta]

There does seem to be quite a bit of hysteria and hair pulling over the last article. I rather liked this repsonse.

there's a real easy way to fight this horrible christian dictatorship and make it fare [sic] for followers of all religions!!!! DON'T COMMIT ANY CRIMES!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chrs]

Also, screwball to... whoever, for having an ad for "Wayward Sons" (webcomic) on TWeb.

Ahem.

See, I thought I blocked them but I had actually allowed the guys with one set of ads (About comicbook printing) but simultaneously blocked them so everything broke and all of them went through.

Not that the ad or the site is particularly bad but, hey

[jpholding]

Some preliminary points on the 2011 Platinums....having collected them up through November 2011 in one place.

Pickin's are slim in all categories except the At-Large and Skeptic Statement. Loftus has only two entries. So does Christian E-Mail. There is no At-Large email entry (again). Some categories have only one entry, and if no more emerge in December, there will be 5 default winners alone in their categories.

One category where I very much doubt we'll have a better entry is Famous Christian. I see no way Harold Camping can be beaten there for 2011. I'd place Geisler a distant second -- way distant -- at this point.

Ed Dingess will get a special award.

That's the story so far. We'll see how this month's entries change things, if at all.

[MaxVel]

Missing the point of the argument award

And, I am always surprised when people take seriously the CS Lewis aphorism about Jesus being “either the Lord, a liar or a lunatic”, when to me the most likely explanation is that he was simply mistaken. It is not as if self-convinced messiahs are unknown in history.

Note that CS Lewis' formulation is aimed at those who accept the Gospel accounts of Jesus' teachings but want to deny His divinity: 'He was a great moral teacher, no more than that'.

Mere Christianity

"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God.

© source where applicable

P1. Jesus claimed to be God
(assumed for sake of argument: The Gospels give a reasonably reliable account of what Jesus said and taught)

P2. He either was God or He wasn't God.

C1: He was God (LORD)

C2: He wasn't God

C2(a): He thought He was God (Lunatic)

C2 (b) He knew He was not God, but nevertheless claimed to be God (Liar)



Tassman's objection: Lewis left out 'Jesus was mistaken' shows that he hasn't grasped at all what the argument is saying. That is already covered in the argument by C2(a) 'Lunatic'.


Ehrmann's objection that Lewis omitted the possibility of 'Legend' misses the point of Lewis' argument. Sure, if you don't grant the assumed premise, you have to add a 4th option (Legend), but Lewis was never arguing the Trilemma to people who don't accept that Jesus existed.


Other objections that reject this as a bad argument for Christianity (because it leaves out all the options) IMHO miss Lewis' intention: He was aiming this at those who are 'culturally' christian, those who accept the Bible as reflecting Jesus' life, but don't want to accept all the implications of that. Lewis, I think, was too smart to think that this argument was a proof of Christianity from scratch.

[fm93]

Tassman's view of Jesus:
"Wait, so I'm not actually God? Oops! My bad."

[fm93]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...sis-revelation

[jpholding]

Tassman's view of Jesus:
"Wait, so I'm not actually God? Oops! My bad."

This has been the desperate suggestion of these guys since I tackled The Jury Is In in 1996.

[Raphael]

And, I am always surprised when people take seriously the CS Lewis aphorism about Jesus being “either the Lord, a liar or a lunatic”, when to me the most likely explanation is that he was simply mistaken. It is not as if self-convinced messiahs are unknown in history.

And yes, we have a word for those people who walk around mistakenly calling themselves God. We generally call them "fruitcakes" or "nutjobs" which are pseudonyms for ..... lunatic.

[BeyondTW]

And yes, we have a word for those people who walk around mistakenly calling themselves God. We generally call them "fruitcakes" or "nutjobs" which are pseudonyms for ..... lunatic.

Don't you get it? If you believe in God, then you are stupid because you have no scientific evidence. But you have scientific evidence of yourself, so believing you are God is fine.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Nomination for Don Schneider for his "Jesus was a mystical Eastern guru" thesis: http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...70#post3331470

[jpholding]

My little bro sends more:




Israel: Don’t Marry U.S. Jews!

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-don-t-m...103000421.html

Speaking of bigotry, I think a Screwball should go to the colleges that make Asians have to do things like this. (More crying?)

Some Asians' college strategy: Don't check 'Asian'

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article...ck_Asian/full/

[Challenger Grim]

Ahem.

See, I thought I blocked them but I had actually allowed the guys with one set of ads (About comicbook printing) but simultaneously blocked them so everything broke and all of them went through.

Not that the ad or the site is particularly bad but, hey

Well... not BAD bad.

But there's a few comics I could post links to that would get me modded in a heartbeat. I just think it would have been a little funny for someone to click on one and maybe face an update that was... very much in greek god spirit.