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      Screwball to Tom Saunders for this "comment" to an article about Obama getting religion:

      The Occult Christianity in the U. S. Constitution

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      Tom Saunders, B.A./B.S., Certified Linguist, Founder of the Bill of Attainder Project...

      As a Linguist and researcher I have written a Gnostic Glossary, designed to explain the field of study surrounding Sethian Gnosticism. A glossary is a tool designed to reveal the language to transmit the words and working concepts used by those in a field of study. This is how I have come to know the following information contained in this essay. ("Saunders Gnostic Glossary," 2007-2011.)

      Christian Gnosticism was declared by the founding fathers of the Christian Church, as a serious heretical deviation from the teachings of Christ. The teachings of Gnosticism in early Christianity became a deadly 'capital crime' against the Church. This policy of Gnosticism being heretical holds for the Catholic and mainstream Evangelical churches today.

      Christian Gnosticism is emanation philosophy. The metaphysics and epistemology of Gnosticism is based upon the understanding of the flow of human energies. The Chinese call these energies Chi, and Gnostics call this energy Aeons. Gnostic Aeonology, and Chinese Ba Gua Science work the same way, and are probably from the same source at the beginning of civilization. ( See: Fung Yu-Lan, and Lao Tzu)

      There are people who know how to apply Ba Gua Science today, this is how I know how the Gnostic emanation system works. It is very complex, and this work is meant to reveal it only in part. I have other works where I explain Aeons in detail. It is a hard study.

      The Study of Aeons in Ancient History:

      Christian Gnosticism started when Sethian Gnostics, followers of John the Baptist, started to follow Jesus. The use of the word 'Aeons' shows up in extant literature earlier than the followers of Jesus called themselves, "Christians." "Christians" became the common name for followers of Jesus, during Paul's time. Long after Saul, became Paul.

      Gnosticism was taught in absolute secrecy. Sethian Christian texts seem to me as very rare written references to measuring Aeons with the Monad, e.g. as a literal and mathematical sequence.

      Gnostic works and scripture are written for those that understand the underlying emanation philosophies in written works. Gnostics understand Spirits as emanations of human energies, and praxis. Most modern Gnostic scholars do not have a clue this system is hidden in Gnostic works.

      In both ancient Chinese and Gnostic Emanation philosophy Spirits are not abstracts, they have literal values, and Platonic-like form. Spirits or Aeons, are in most Gnostic schemas, good or evil base emotions.

      Trained students of Emanation methods can measure Spirit, with a Ba Gua sequence, or the Monad. Both the Chinese and Gnostic method is in practice the same system of measurement. (See: Fung Yu-Lan.)

      The Chinese and Gnostic emanation sequence is measured unit by unit progression with a mathematical value, with a corresponding literal character value, and a 'name' value. All of these values must correspond to a harmony. They work with Triviums, Quadriviums, Syllogisms and other forms of Pythagorean and Aristotle's tools of logic.

      Pythagorean Logic and the Founding Fathers:

      In 180 A. D., Irenaeus, then Bishop of Rome, took the position as the most respectable authority in the Christian Church. He cultivated a following that today signifies him as a 'Founding Father' of the Christian Church. He is also the 'founder' of the anti-Gnostic movement.

      He inspired Hippolytus, and Tertullian to also write anti-Gnostic works. (See: "Against Heresy," by Irenaeus, "Against All Heresies," by Hippolytus, and "Against Valentinians," by Tertullian. The primary purpose of these texts is to denounce Gnostic concepts. By doing this they relate some content to the nature of Gnostic methods and concepts.

      Today Gnostic concepts are better understood through the study of actual Gnostic works, and 'can be' understood as emanation philosophy. Today, for the first time in over 1411 years we have actual Gnostic scripture to study. (See" The Nag Hammadi Library, Online.)

      "Where or how did the 'Founding Fathers' who wrote the U.S. Constitution know how to use Aeon measurement, and written Aeons?" The authors of the Constitution did not have the texts we have today. There will be much to answer as to the history of who knew what. I contend that you cannot just make a list and have it work with the Monadic mathematical progression shown in this work.

      To me, a written Aeon is a piece of history and archeology.

      A written Aeon-hebdomad follows a mathematical, and literal formulation of cause and effect that can be shown prima facie. To most people a written Aeon just looks like a list of words. In fact it follows a natural algorithm, and mathematical progression. It can be read or understood, if you know the tricks.

      Anatomy of an Aeon:

      Aeons mean 'spirit' which connotes and denotes subtle human energies in Gnostic science. These energies are commonly measured in emanation philosophies. Aeons in Gnostic science were measured with the Pythagorean Monadology. This is a skill which uses the Monad as a progressive sequence of units based upon the gematria of the "Tetrakys of the Decad."

      I know this skill but it took me about ten years of study to be able to explain it. In order to learn to explain the skill of constructing Aeons I had to learn the Chinese emanation science of how to use the Ba Gua, meaning trigrams. The Pythagorean Monadic sequence works the same way as the Chinese model used in Ba Gua science. (Fung Yu-Lan) This this measurement of Aeons can be shown prima facie.

      It is doubtful that the writers of the Constitution could learn this method of Aeonology from the Chinese model. But Franklin, Jefferson, and Adams, knew the 'other' scientist of day, Gottfried Leibniz. Leibniz was a guest of the French Court, and practiced his trade in France. Leibniz coined the term Monadology in modern science. He was a known student of Pythagorean studies.

      Pythagorean or Gnostic Christianity was strictly forbidden by the Church. Leibniz, didn't write anything about the Monad, we know of today that would have set the Church off on a Witch Hunt. If Leibniz had revealed the Pythagorean Monadology this would have associated the Monad with spirit, and would have violated the concepts of resurrection of the flesh. Leibniz wisely kept his work in terms of the Monad as it relates to matter.

      Leibniz did not construct a Monadic sequence, that we know of. The Monadic sequence is vital to the concept of showing a mathematical progression in the structure of the Aeon form. Somehow the authors of the Constitution learned this skill.

      In order to construct an Aeon emanation you have to show a triangulation between a mathematical (Monadic) value, a gematric literal character value, and a name value. These combined values together are a harmony, that must work together to equal One thing. It must also work as a heuristic device. Aeon emanations are hard science, in terms of making written constructions.

      The Aeon imbedded in the U. S. Constitution is an Aeon-hebdomad, which means it is a seven unit emanation. Different size Aeons have there own 'grammar.'

      The Aeon-hebdomad is directly related to the references of Sabaoth, an the number seven, in the Bible.

      The reference to seven is related to Sabaoth, and the Hebdomas, in the modern translations of Gnostic works. The level of the Hebdomas is the seventh level of attainment in some Gnostic schema.

      Constructing Aeons in ancient times was based upon secret knowledge of the Name of God, known as the Tetragrammaton. (See: "Understanding Christian Gnosticism: The Sacred Tetrad," Saunders, 2011. See also: Tetragrammaton SGG.)

      Reading a seven unit Aeon, is done with the use of Pythagorean mathematics, where the progression of the sequence follows a mathematical, gematric, and literal pattern. A specific grammar is used to interpret Aeons of different sizes.

      The following shows how the progression in the Monadic sequence adds a unit as the emanation grows.

      Monad = Monad

      Duad = Monad, Duad

      Triad = Monad, Duad, Triad

      Tetrad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad

      Pentad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad

      Hexad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad

      Hebdoad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Hebdoad

      Ogdoad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Hebdoad, Ogdoad

      Each value of each unit in this progression includes a mathematical, character, and name value. (I sometimes include these in writing out the progression, and in person I use icons.) What is actually shown above, Monad, Duad, Triad, etc., are only the 'name values' of the sequence. In fact each name above represents a triangulated, mathematical, gematric, and name value, implied to each name.

      Reading a Monadic Sequence:

      To read a monadic sequence requires applying the correct grammar.

      Depending upon the size of the Monadic sequence, the rules of the grammar can change. Part of this grammar is based upon the aspects of combining odd and even numbered sequences. All monadic sequences, no matter how many units, have the mathematical value holistically of being one thing.

      The grammar of the seven unit Aeon-hebdomad is done by combining a triad, (trivium) and tetrad (quadrivium) = (h.e.b.) - (d.o.a.d) = 1. This can be shown:

      (Trivium) = (Monad, Duad, Triad) = 1.

      (Quadrivium) = (Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad)

      To form a hebdomad, you combine a trivium with a quadrivium...

      (Trivium) - (Quadrivium) = 1.

      (Monad, Duad, Triad,) - (Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Hebdoad) = 1. (Hebdomad)

      Each unit in the above form does a specific 'job' regardless of what name is used in the sequence.

      Names change in hebdomads, but the mathematical, and gematric-character values stay the same as constants in reading an Aeon-hebdomad. This enables one to change the names in the sequence but retain their other values in relation to the sequence.

      The following job descriptions apply to any working Aeon-hebdomad. The following job descriptions follow the mathematical, gematric, and literal grammation of the constants in the Monadic form. Names of the units can change, but the jobs the units do remain the same, and the job descriptions below I find, follow the pattern.

      The job descriptions contained in this work are meant to be a general 'guide' to reading Aeon-hebdomads. Other size Aeons, have their own grammar. (See: "Understanding Christian Gnosticism: The Sacred Tetrad," Saunders, 2011.)

      The trivium's jobs: (See: Trivium Method)

      (1-a. Monads state the form's first cause, or name.)

      (2-b. Duads state the motive of the whole sequence, for each unit.)

      (3-c. Triads consolidate the three forms into one.)

      The -hyphen- makes the trivium and quadrivium, literally one form. It represents part of the tetragrammation (secret grammar) of the trivium (1.-a. - Monad, 2.-b.- Duad, 3.-c- Triad,) and quadrivium. (4.-d.- Tetrad, 5.-e.- Pentad, 6.-f.- Hexad, 7.-g.- Hebdoad); as One thing. (See; Trivium Logic, and Syllogism.)

      The quadrivium's jobs:

      (4-d. Tetrads state a level of 'excitement' in the form.)

      (5-e. Pentads state the nature of the 'structure' of the form.)

      (6-f. Hexads state the 'action' of the form, related to its specific power and form.)

      (7-g. Hebdoads state the extent of power or 'control' (cause and effect) of the form; the last unit of an Aeon is always the 'control' unit. It shows what happens between idea and action.)

      Gnostic science is the application of combining mathematical, gematric, and literal tools of logic to measure human praxis. This is based upon aligning these tools of logic to natural algorithms. Nobody makes anything up in this arena, it is prima facie.

      Gnostic science is the use of heuristic tools to show proofs. The Preamble's Aeon is meant to be such a tool. (See: "Understanding Christian Gnosticism: The Sacred Tetrad," Saunders, 2011.)

      The Actual Aeon-Hebdomad in the U. S. Constitution:

      There is only one logical place to put the Monad in a literary body, and that is at the beginning. The hidden Aeon-hebdomad is in the passage of the Constitution's Preamble. The Preamble's Aeon-hebdomad:

      "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

      In the following Monad = 1. and is replaced with Union of the People. 2. = Justice, as the duad etc.

      The Aeon hebdomad is: (1. Union of the People, 2. Justice, 3. Tranquility) - (4. General Welfare, 5. Common defence, 6. Secure (individual) Liberty, 7. Our Self Posterity).

      To read or interpret the Preamble's Aeon you follow the job descriptions. Upon doing this we can easily get a literal idea of how to use the Constitution to show rights and protections.

      Reading the Preamble's Aeon:

      The Trivium: (Union, Justice, Tranquility) = 1 thing.

      Each unit of a seven unit Monadic sequence is a whole field of study. Units of an Aeon-hebdomad, must harmonize to form one thing. Volumes can be written about any one of the fields of study in the Preambles Aeon-hebdomad.

      The Monad: "Union of the People" is the primary Name of this Aeon hebdomad. It is the primary cause of the form. Monad means One, Union of the People means One people.

      The Duad: Justice is the motive for the Monad, and every other unit in the Aeon-hebdomad matrix. The duad is (Union-Justice). Below I will show how the American system of Justice can actually help form union of the people.

      The Triad: Tranquility combines with Union and Justice to form One thing.

      Triviums must contain three names that form One thing. This works like B. J. Skinner used the names (1. Stimulus, 2. Operant, 3. Reinforcement) = Behavior.

      The Quadrivium, (4. General Welfare, 5. Common defence, 6. Secure (individual) Liberty, 7. Our Self Posterity).

      The Tetrad: General Welfare through the motive of Justice, is preserved, or is not, and this connotes a level of excitement measureable in the American social fabric.

      The Pentad: Common defence is meant to be done with the motive of Justice. It is in praxis done with the union of the people, as one body.

      The Hexad: Through the motive and method of Justice, To Secure Individual Liberty is the 'action' prescribed by the body to secure general welfare.

      The Hebdoad: To preserve Justice, and liberty for our posterity is to exercise 'free will' directed at individual liberty as a collective, 'union of the people.'

      The seven unit (trivium) - (quadrivium), can be used as a heuristic device The trivium is like an idea, connected to the quadrivium which is like the body and action of the idea. As a device the hebdomad shows cause and effect of the named Monad.

      Quadriviums work like a compass, alignment on a map or graph, and also can be linked to Aristotle's Square of Opposition, as well as Syllogisms.

      Every unit 'field of study' in the Aeon matrix can be aligned to individuals in terms of showing an individual data profile, as to cause and effect of the Aeon on the individual's 'body.'

      Applying Justice with the Constitution as a Heuristic Device:

      The American method of Justice is outlined in the Constitution. American law is made with a 'Trinity' between legislation, 'stare decisis' of court decisions, and approval or veto of the Executive branch, e.g., the President.

      American rights are determined by the instrumentation of Constitutional law, meaning that rights are enumerated. The rule of law comes primarily from the legislature and the courts. The following formula, called the "American Rights Formula," shows the historical basis, and a common reference base for the modalities of American law.

      1. Show the constitutional ('State and Federal') provisions (Like from the 1st. Amend.) that specify the 'right' you are trying to demonstrate.

      2. Show any legislative acts, that support a particular right, as being 'Constitutional.'

      3. Show the judicial decisions, (stare decisis) of the right you are trying to show by these proofs.

      4. Show where violations have happened in regard to a particular situation.

      Certainly, this formula can be expanded to include helpful references, but if you have a computer ''search engine,'' the formula works well all by itself. Most will come up with the same supporting documents about any given enumerated right. There are at least two centuries of historical supporting material for any given right you might investigate with this reference formula.

      Conclusion:

      The Preamble's Aeon-hebdomad follows the right pattern of algorithms and 'jobs' for its units and this can be shown with other known Gnostic Aeon-hebdomads. This template or schema is shown by using the Monadic sequence, which follows a mathematical, and literal progression as a constant.

      The Monadic sequence starts with the Monad. Then the duad, triad, and tetrad form in a sequence. The following construction of the Tetragrammaton, Name of God used in the Hebrew Bible ("Yahweh"), is based upon the use of Pythagorean ''Tetrakys of the Decad:"

      1. Monad, (Monad) = 1

      2. Duad, (Monad-Duad) = 1

      3. Triad, (Monad-Duad-Triad) = 1

      4. Tetrad, (Monad-Duad-Triad-Tetrad) = 1

      In the following...

      (1. 2. 3. 4.) = Monadic values

      (YHWH) = Character-letter values

      (Yod, He, Wa, He) = Name values

      1. Monad, (1.-Y- Yod)

      2. Duad, (1. Y- Yod, 2.-H- He)

      3. Triad, (1. Y- Yod, 2.-H- He, 3.-W. -Waw)

      4. Tetrad, (1.-Y.-Yod, 2.-H.-He, 3.- W.-Waw, 4.-H.-He,) or 'Yahweh,' the name of God.

      Using the formula and presenting all the combined values, as an Aeon emanation the 'Name of God' can be written as:

      (1.-Y.-Yod, 2.-H.-He, 3.- W.-Wa, 4.-H.-He,) = God(Yahweh), = One

      An Aeon-hebdomad is highly significant in Christian Gnosticism in that the entire scope of human emotions can be written out and studied as an Aeon-hebdomad matrix. This means the algorithms of good and evil human emotions can be measured with the Aeon matrix. And, one can learn to manipulate the psyche, much to your own advantage.

      Reading Aeons takes some study-time to learn. But this skill is common requirement in Emanation Philosophy. Lao Tzu's the "Hua Hu Ching," lists over twenty skills based upon heuristic applications of aligning words to the mathematical values of the ba gua sequence. Lao Tzu calls Ba Gua science the, "Inquiry of the Changing Signs."

      A person who knows Chinese Ba Gua science should have no trouble interpreting the Preamble's sequence in a very similar way as I have shown above. I know this with some certainty because I've actually demonstrated reading the Preamble's sequence with those who have the knowledge to use Ba Gua science.

      I may be the first modern scholar to actually be able to construct the Gnostic version of written Aeons (Spirit).

      (See Ng's work on Pythagorean and Masonic principles. See also, Fung Yu-Lan, "The History of Chinese Philosophy" Fung Yu-Lan shows how Pythagorean Math works like the Tai Chi's ba gua (trigram) system. Lao Tzu's "Hua Hu Ching" shows over twenty different skills applied to Emanation science. See also: Mead's works in the NHL archives, especially, "Simon Magus." Mead gives a written description of the formation of an Aeon.)

      I have no doubt the Preamble's Aeon-hebdomad is no accident. The Constitution acts with the 'body' or union of the people for the general welfare, the defence, and liberty, of the 'body' of the people as a planned destiny.

      This meets the full anatomy and design of learning and applying the sciences, and heuristic methods of Emanation philosophy. The American Rights Formula is the heuristic device meant to be used with the emanation system. This is the kind of planned destiny that Gnostics would devise.

      At this time one can only speculate where and how the authors of the Constitution learned to construct an Aeon-hebdomad. However, there is no doubt in my mind that every American should know how to enumerate a Constitutional right, as a civic duty. "In the Name of God."



      - he thinks Sethian Gnostics were followers of John the Baptist who became followers of Jesus
      - he thinks Irenaeus was Bishop of Rome
      - he thinks the U.S. Constitution is a Gnostic document.

      I'm not sure whether to be offended or amused by the article's use of an Orthodox icon of Christ to parody Obama.

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      Screwball to Tom Saunders for this "comment" to an article about Obama getting religion:

      The Occult Christianity in the U. S. Constitution

      by

      Tom Saunders, B.A./B.S., Certified Linguist, Founder of the Bill of Attainder Project...

      As a Linguist and researcher I have written a Gnostic Glossary, designed to explain the field of study surrounding Sethian Gnosticism. A glossary is a tool designed to reveal the language to transmit the words and working concepts used by those in a field of study. This is how I have come to know the following information contained in this essay. ("Saunders Gnostic Glossary," 2007-2011.)

      Christian Gnosticism was declared by the founding fathers of the Christian Church, as a serious heretical deviation from the teachings of Christ. The teachings of Gnosticism in early Christianity became a deadly 'capital crime' against the Church. This policy of Gnosticism being heretical holds for the Catholic and mainstream Evangelical churches today.

      Christian Gnosticism is emanation philosophy. The metaphysics and epistemology of Gnosticism is based upon the understanding of the flow of human energies. The Chinese call these energies Chi, and Gnostics call this energy Aeons. Gnostic Aeonology, and Chinese Ba Gua Science work the same way, and are probably from the same source at the beginning of civilization. ( See: Fung Yu-Lan, and Lao Tzu)

      There are people who know how to apply Ba Gua Science today, this is how I know how the Gnostic emanation system works. It is very complex, and this work is meant to reveal it only in part. I have other works where I explain Aeons in detail. It is a hard study.

      The Study of Aeons in Ancient History:

      Christian Gnosticism started when Sethian Gnostics, followers of John the Baptist, started to follow Jesus. The use of the word 'Aeons' shows up in extant literature earlier than the followers of Jesus called themselves, "Christians." "Christians" became the common name for followers of Jesus, during Paul's time. Long after Saul, became Paul.

      Gnosticism was taught in absolute secrecy. Sethian Christian texts seem to me as very rare written references to measuring Aeons with the Monad, e.g. as a literal and mathematical sequence.

      Gnostic works and scripture are written for those that understand the underlying emanation philosophies in written works. Gnostics understand Spirits as emanations of human energies, and praxis. Most modern Gnostic scholars do not have a clue this system is hidden in Gnostic works.

      In both ancient Chinese and Gnostic Emanation philosophy Spirits are not abstracts, they have literal values, and Platonic-like form. Spirits or Aeons, are in most Gnostic schemas, good or evil base emotions.

      Trained students of Emanation methods can measure Spirit, with a Ba Gua sequence, or the Monad. Both the Chinese and Gnostic method is in practice the same system of measurement. (See: Fung Yu-Lan.)

      The Chinese and Gnostic emanation sequence is measured unit by unit progression with a mathematical value, with a corresponding literal character value, and a 'name' value. All of these values must correspond to a harmony. They work with Triviums, Quadriviums, Syllogisms and other forms of Pythagorean and Aristotle's tools of logic.

      Pythagorean Logic and the Founding Fathers:

      In 180 A. D., Irenaeus, then Bishop of Rome, took the position as the most respectable authority in the Christian Church. He cultivated a following that today signifies him as a 'Founding Father' of the Christian Church. He is also the 'founder' of the anti-Gnostic movement.

      He inspired Hippolytus, and Tertullian to also write anti-Gnostic works. (See: "Against Heresy," by Irenaeus, "Against All Heresies," by Hippolytus, and "Against Valentinians," by Tertullian. The primary purpose of these texts is to denounce Gnostic concepts. By doing this they relate some content to the nature of Gnostic methods and concepts.

      Today Gnostic concepts are better understood through the study of actual Gnostic works, and 'can be' understood as emanation philosophy. Today, for the first time in over 1411 years we have actual Gnostic scripture to study. (See" The Nag Hammadi Library, Online.)

      "Where or how did the 'Founding Fathers' who wrote the U.S. Constitution know how to use Aeon measurement, and written Aeons?" The authors of the Constitution did not have the texts we have today. There will be much to answer as to the history of who knew what. I contend that you cannot just make a list and have it work with the Monadic mathematical progression shown in this work.

      To me, a written Aeon is a piece of history and archeology.

      A written Aeon-hebdomad follows a mathematical, and literal formulation of cause and effect that can be shown prima facie. To most people a written Aeon just looks like a list of words. In fact it follows a natural algorithm, and mathematical progression. It can be read or understood, if you know the tricks.

      Anatomy of an Aeon:

      Aeons mean 'spirit' which connotes and denotes subtle human energies in Gnostic science. These energies are commonly measured in emanation philosophies. Aeons in Gnostic science were measured with the Pythagorean Monadology. This is a skill which uses the Monad as a progressive sequence of units based upon the gematria of the "Tetrakys of the Decad."

      I know this skill but it took me about ten years of study to be able to explain it. In order to learn to explain the skill of constructing Aeons I had to learn the Chinese emanation science of how to use the Ba Gua, meaning trigrams. The Pythagorean Monadic sequence works the same way as the Chinese model used in Ba Gua science. (Fung Yu-Lan) This this measurement of Aeons can be shown prima facie.

      It is doubtful that the writers of the Constitution could learn this method of Aeonology from the Chinese model. But Franklin, Jefferson, and Adams, knew the 'other' scientist of day, Gottfried Leibniz. Leibniz was a guest of the French Court, and practiced his trade in France. Leibniz coined the term Monadology in modern science. He was a known student of Pythagorean studies.

      Pythagorean or Gnostic Christianity was strictly forbidden by the Church. Leibniz, didn't write anything about the Monad, we know of today that would have set the Church off on a Witch Hunt. If Leibniz had revealed the Pythagorean Monadology this would have associated the Monad with spirit, and would have violated the concepts of resurrection of the flesh. Leibniz wisely kept his work in terms of the Monad as it relates to matter.

      Leibniz did not construct a Monadic sequence, that we know of. The Monadic sequence is vital to the concept of showing a mathematical progression in the structure of the Aeon form. Somehow the authors of the Constitution learned this skill.

      In order to construct an Aeon emanation you have to show a triangulation between a mathematical (Monadic) value, a gematric literal character value, and a name value. These combined values together are a harmony, that must work together to equal One thing. It must also work as a heuristic device. Aeon emanations are hard science, in terms of making written constructions.

      The Aeon imbedded in the U. S. Constitution is an Aeon-hebdomad, which means it is a seven unit emanation. Different size Aeons have there own 'grammar.'

      The Aeon-hebdomad is directly related to the references of Sabaoth, an the number seven, in the Bible.

      The reference to seven is related to Sabaoth, and the Hebdomas, in the modern translations of Gnostic works. The level of the Hebdomas is the seventh level of attainment in some Gnostic schema.

      Constructing Aeons in ancient times was based upon secret knowledge of the Name of God, known as the Tetragrammaton. (See: "Understanding Christian Gnosticism: The Sacred Tetrad," Saunders, 2011. See also: Tetragrammaton SGG.)

      Reading a seven unit Aeon, is done with the use of Pythagorean mathematics, where the progression of the sequence follows a mathematical, gematric, and literal pattern. A specific grammar is used to interpret Aeons of different sizes.

      The following shows how the progression in the Monadic sequence adds a unit as the emanation grows.

      Monad = Monad

      Duad = Monad, Duad

      Triad = Monad, Duad, Triad

      Tetrad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad

      Pentad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad

      Hexad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad

      Hebdoad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Hebdoad

      Ogdoad = Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Hebdoad, Ogdoad

      Each value of each unit in this progression includes a mathematical, character, and name value. (I sometimes include these in writing out the progression, and in person I use icons.) What is actually shown above, Monad, Duad, Triad, etc., are only the 'name values' of the sequence. In fact each name above represents a triangulated, mathematical, gematric, and name value, implied to each name.

      Reading a Monadic Sequence:

      To read a monadic sequence requires applying the correct grammar.

      Depending upon the size of the Monadic sequence, the rules of the grammar can change. Part of this grammar is based upon the aspects of combining odd and even numbered sequences. All monadic sequences, no matter how many units, have the mathematical value holistically of being one thing.

      The grammar of the seven unit Aeon-hebdomad is done by combining a triad, (trivium) and tetrad (quadrivium) = (h.e.b.) - (d.o.a.d) = 1. This can be shown:

      (Trivium) = (Monad, Duad, Triad) = 1.

      (Quadrivium) = (Monad, Duad, Triad, Tetrad)

      To form a hebdomad, you combine a trivium with a quadrivium...

      (Trivium) - (Quadrivium) = 1.

      (Monad, Duad, Triad,) - (Tetrad, Pentad, Hexad, Hebdoad) = 1. (Hebdomad)

      Each unit in the above form does a specific 'job' regardless of what name is used in the sequence.

      Names change in hebdomads, but the mathematical, and gematric-character values stay the same as constants in reading an Aeon-hebdomad. This enables one to change the names in the sequence but retain their other values in relation to the sequence.

      The following job descriptions apply to any working Aeon-hebdomad. The following job descriptions follow the mathematical, gematric, and literal grammation of the constants in the Monadic form. Names of the units can change, but the jobs the units do remain the same, and the job descriptions below I find, follow the pattern.

      The job descriptions contained in this work are meant to be a general 'guide' to reading Aeon-hebdomads. Other size Aeons, have their own grammar. (See: "Understanding Christian Gnosticism: The Sacred Tetrad," Saunders, 2011.)

      The trivium's jobs: (See: Trivium Method)

      (1-a. Monads state the form's first cause, or name.)

      (2-b. Duads state the motive of the whole sequence, for each unit.)

      (3-c. Triads consolidate the three forms into one.)

      The -hyphen- makes the trivium and quadrivium, literally one form. It represents part of the tetragrammation (secret grammar) of the trivium (1.-a. - Monad, 2.-b.- Duad, 3.-c- Triad,) and quadrivium. (4.-d.- Tetrad, 5.-e.- Pentad, 6.-f.- Hexad, 7.-g.- Hebdoad); as One thing. (See; Trivium Logic, and Syllogism.)

      The quadrivium's jobs:

      (4-d. Tetrads state a level of 'excitement' in the form.)

      (5-e. Pentads state the nature of the 'structure' of the form.)

      (6-f. Hexads state the 'action' of the form, related to its specific power and form.)

      (7-g. Hebdoads state the extent of power or 'control' (cause and effect) of the form; the last unit of an Aeon is always the 'control' unit. It shows what happens between idea and action.)

      Gnostic science is the application of combining mathematical, gematric, and literal tools of logic to measure human praxis. This is based upon aligning these tools of logic to natural algorithms. Nobody makes anything up in this arena, it is prima facie.

      Gnostic science is the use of heuristic tools to show proofs. The Preamble's Aeon is meant to be such a tool. (See: "Understanding Christian Gnosticism: The Sacred Tetrad," Saunders, 2011.)

      The Actual Aeon-Hebdomad in the U. S. Constitution:

      There is only one logical place to put the Monad in a literary body, and that is at the beginning. The hidden Aeon-hebdomad is in the passage of the Constitution's Preamble. The Preamble's Aeon-hebdomad:

      "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

      In the following Monad = 1. and is replaced with Union of the People. 2. = Justice, as the duad etc.

      The Aeon hebdomad is: (1. Union of the People, 2. Justice, 3. Tranquility) - (4. General Welfare, 5. Common defence, 6. Secure (individual) Liberty, 7. Our Self Posterity).

      To read or interpret the Preamble's Aeon you follow the job descriptions. Upon doing this we can easily get a literal idea of how to use the Constitution to show rights and protections.

      Reading the Preamble's Aeon:

      The Trivium: (Union, Justice, Tranquility) = 1 thing.

      Each unit of a seven unit Monadic sequence is a whole field of study. Units of an Aeon-hebdomad, must harmonize to form one thing. Volumes can be written about any one of the fields of study in the Preambles Aeon-hebdomad.

      The Monad: "Union of the People" is the primary Name of this Aeon hebdomad. It is the primary cause of the form. Monad means One, Union of the People means One people.

      The Duad: Justice is the motive for the Monad, and every other unit in the Aeon-hebdomad matrix. The duad is (Union-Justice). Below I will show how the American system of Justice can actually help form union of the people.

      The Triad: Tranquility combines with Union and Justice to form One thing.

      Triviums must contain three names that form One thing. This works like B. J. Skinner used the names (1. Stimulus, 2. Operant, 3. Reinforcement) = Behavior.

      The Quadrivium, (4. General Welfare, 5. Common defence, 6. Secure (individual) Liberty, 7. Our Self Posterity).

      The Tetrad: General Welfare through the motive of Justice, is preserved, or is not, and this connotes a level of excitement measureable in the American social fabric.

      The Pentad: Common defence is meant to be done with the motive of Justice. It is in praxis done with the union of the people, as one body.

      The Hexad: Through the motive and method of Justice, To Secure Individual Liberty is the 'action' prescribed by the body to secure general welfare.

      The Hebdoad: To preserve Justice, and liberty for our posterity is to exercise 'free will' directed at individual liberty as a collective, 'union of the people.'

      The seven unit (trivium) - (quadrivium), can be used as a heuristic device The trivium is like an idea, connected to the quadrivium which is like the body and action of the idea. As a device the hebdomad shows cause and effect of the named Monad.

      Quadriviums work like a compass, alignment on a map or graph, and also can be linked to Aristotle's Square of Opposition, as well as Syllogisms.

      Every unit 'field of study' in the Aeon matrix can be aligned to individuals in terms of showing an individual data profile, as to cause and effect of the Aeon on the individual's 'body.'

      Applying Justice with the Constitution as a Heuristic Device:

      The American method of Justice is outlined in the Constitution. American law is made with a 'Trinity' between legislation, 'stare decisis' of court decisions, and approval or veto of the Executive branch, e.g., the President.

      American rights are determined by the instrumentation of Constitutional law, meaning that rights are enumerated. The rule of law comes primarily from the legislature and the courts. The following formula, called the "American Rights Formula," shows the historical basis, and a common reference base for the modalities of American law.

      1. Show the constitutional ('State and Federal') provisions (Like from the 1st. Amend.) that specify the 'right' you are trying to demonstrate.

      2. Show any legislative acts, that support a particular right, as being 'Constitutional.'

      3. Show the judicial decisions, (stare decisis) of the right you are trying to show by these proofs.

      4. Show where violations have happened in regard to a particular situation.

      Certainly, this formula can be expanded to include helpful references, but if you have a computer ''search engine,'' the formula works well all by itself. Most will come up with the same supporting documents about any given enumerated right. There are at least two centuries of historical supporting material for any given right you might investigate with this reference formula.

      Conclusion:

      The Preamble's Aeon-hebdomad follows the right pattern of algorithms and 'jobs' for its units and this can be shown with other known Gnostic Aeon-hebdomads. This template or schema is shown by using the Monadic sequence, which follows a mathematical, and literal progression as a constant.

      The Monadic sequence starts with the Monad. Then the duad, triad, and tetrad form in a sequence. The following construction of the Tetragrammaton, Name of God used in the Hebrew Bible ("Yahweh"), is based upon the use of Pythagorean ''Tetrakys of the Decad:"

      1. Monad, (Monad) = 1

      2. Duad, (Monad-Duad) = 1

      3. Triad, (Monad-Duad-Triad) = 1

      4. Tetrad, (Monad-Duad-Triad-Tetrad) = 1

      In the following...

      (1. 2. 3. 4.) = Monadic values

      (YHWH) = Character-letter values

      (Yod, He, Wa, He) = Name values

      1. Monad, (1.-Y- Yod)

      2. Duad, (1. Y- Yod, 2.-H- He)

      3. Triad, (1. Y- Yod, 2.-H- He, 3.-W. -Waw)

      4. Tetrad, (1.-Y.-Yod, 2.-H.-He, 3.- W.-Waw, 4.-H.-He,) or 'Yahweh,' the name of God.

      Using the formula and presenting all the combined values, as an Aeon emanation the 'Name of God' can be written as:

      (1.-Y.-Yod, 2.-H.-He, 3.- W.-Wa, 4.-H.-He,) = God(Yahweh), = One

      An Aeon-hebdomad is highly significant in Christian Gnosticism in that the entire scope of human emotions can be written out and studied as an Aeon-hebdomad matrix. This means the algorithms of good and evil human emotions can be measured with the Aeon matrix. And, one can learn to manipulate the psyche, much to your own advantage.

      Reading Aeons takes some study-time to learn. But this skill is common requirement in Emanation Philosophy. Lao Tzu's the "Hua Hu Ching," lists over twenty skills based upon heuristic applications of aligning words to the mathematical values of the ba gua sequence. Lao Tzu calls Ba Gua science the, "Inquiry of the Changing Signs."

      A person who knows Chinese Ba Gua science should have no trouble interpreting the Preamble's sequence in a very similar way as I have shown above. I know this with some certainty because I've actually demonstrated reading the Preamble's sequence with those who have the knowledge to use Ba Gua science.

      I may be the first modern scholar to actually be able to construct the Gnostic version of written Aeons (Spirit).

      (See Ng's work on Pythagorean and Masonic principles. See also, Fung Yu-Lan, "The History of Chinese Philosophy" Fung Yu-Lan shows how Pythagorean Math works like the Tai Chi's ba gua (trigram) system. Lao Tzu's "Hua Hu Ching" shows over twenty different skills applied to Emanation science. See also: Mead's works in the NHL archives, especially, "Simon Magus." Mead gives a written description of the formation of an Aeon.)

      I have no doubt the Preamble's Aeon-hebdomad is no accident. The Constitution acts with the 'body' or union of the people for the general welfare, the defence, and liberty, of the 'body' of the people as a planned destiny.

      This meets the full anatomy and design of learning and applying the sciences, and heuristic methods of Emanation philosophy. The American Rights Formula is the heuristic device meant to be used with the emanation system. This is the kind of planned destiny that Gnostics would devise.

      At this time one can only speculate where and how the authors of the Constitution learned to construct an Aeon-hebdomad. However, there is no doubt in my mind that every American should know how to enumerate a Constitutional right, as a civic duty. "In the Name of God."



      - he thinks Sethian Gnostics were followers of John the Baptist who became followers of Jesus
      - he thinks Irenaeus was Bishop of Rome
      - he thinks the U.S. Constitution is a Gnostic document.

      I'm not sure whether to be offended or amused by the article's use of an Orthodox icon of Christ to parody Obama.
      That is one of the longest and densest pieces of fabricated FAIL that I've ever seen in a comments section.
      "I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."

      "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us. There are other forces at work in this world Frodo, besides the will of evil. Bilbo was meant to find the Ring. In which case, you were also meant to have it. And that is an encouraging thought."

      -Frodo and Gandalf the Grey in Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring

      "Whoever saves one life, saves the world entire."

      -The Talmud, quoted in Schindler's List

      "Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have labored to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder."

      Gandalf the White in Lord of the Rings: Return of the King

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      Addendum: Auggy, it occurs to me that perhaps I should mention that "lolwut" is not a substance. In other words, I was not answering your question "What's Manwe made of," because...well, I had no clue what the trout you were even saying.
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      EDIT: Per atheists, now the Israeli antiquities authority is involved in a conspiracy with Christianity to forge discoveries about Nazareth to boost tourism.

      Some days I think someone like John C Wright converted just because they couldn't stand the company any more.

      (Hopefully Aug won't be jumping on that conspiracy bandwagon.)
      No, I do not jump on any conspiracy wagon that happens to pass by. I want to see some evidence first. This is the first time I knew about atheists' thinking that the Israeli authority is conspiring with Christians. Is there any evidence of that? Maybe a smoking gun will be unearthed, but I'd shake my head.

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      Screwball to my university, as their online module assessment feedback sheets won't open on my Macbook Pro. I suddenly had the thought of trying to open them on my PC, and lo and behold they open just fine.

      In other news, I got 68 for my essay on Rousseau, and 64 for my essay on the US constitution. Prayer fulfilment right there.:)
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      So someone else responded to that "Rey" guy on Pastor Timmy's blog and what does Timmy say? See here:

      http://pastortimrogers.com/?p=2724#comment-4904

      Brother CB,

      Thank you for your input. You are spot on.

      As you have seen I did not deal with our anonymous friends response for two reasons. First, and this is the main reason, to even imply that Jesus Christ would be “object to” Matthew’s understanding of an OT scripture is absolutely absurd. It is the most sophomoric statement I have seen in some time.
      Translation: I had no idea what to say because I am an unequipped leader and I was waiting for someone to come along and save my butt due to my incompetence and I have no idea what your answer was but I'll agree to it anyway.


      Therefore I decided to just let it stand and wait to see if anyone would affirm him. No one has, thus far, so one can see that those who agree with Dr. Licona’s position are distancing themselves from his position on this.
      Translation: People have decided I am far too stubborn and rock-headed to actually bother in intellectual debate, but I refuse to say that. Instead, Rey, though really an Ehrmanite, is no doubt someone who sides with Licona's position and thus, since no one else answered, the Licona side is wanting to keep its distance. Obviously, it couldn't be because people think that since I'm the pastor of my church, I'm expected to give an answer.


      Second, He uses the name “Rey” but his email is a different name with a different use. He did not sign in with an active link and his email is a “yahoo” account. It leads me to suspect “Rey” is someone that wants to be anonymous. I will not be drawn into a debate with anonymous comments.

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