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[apostoli]

a Ashkenazi compromise

I'm using Ashkenazi as a general reference to Geman and East European Jews. Not all Ashkenazi are Jews by Abrahamic inheritance (of the diaspora) but in distances past gentile proselytes...imu, it is a dispute in at least multicultural Australian Jewish circles = who is and is not a "true" Jew... in my observance growing up in an area that had/has a high Jewish influence after WWII, the less claim the more fanatical in observance...

[One Bad Pig]

I'm using Ashkenazi as a general reference to Geman and East European Jews. Not all Ashkenazi are Jews by Abrahamic inheritance (of the diaspora) but in distances past gentile proselytes...imu, it is a dispute in at least multicultural Australian Jewish circles = who is and is not a "true" Jew... in my observance growing up in an area that had/has a high Jewish influence after WWII, the less claim the more fanatical in observance...

In my understanding, the Ashkenazi Jews have definite blood ties to other Jews.

[apostoli]

In my understanding, the Ashkenazi Jews have definite blood ties to other Jews.

Imu, strictly speaking the Ashkenazi are German Jews, though there was emigration east in medieval times. My direct association has been mainly with Hungarian and Russian Jews (the guys I grew up with and have associated with for decades) who seem to have a low opinion of what they refer to as the Ashkenazi. Imu, from personal Jewish sources, and personal experience, there is a severe case of ethnic racism within Australian Jewish circles...

ps: I forget which kingdom/s, but in the early centuries CE there were a couple of kingdoms that converted to Judaism as an effective means of neutrality. Given time I can give exact references. Also, I vaguely remember that there is rumour that the Parthian empire originated as a rebellious group of Jewish warriors during or after the Babylonian exile (something yet to be substantianted). If true, there is the liklihood of enforced conversion to Judaism amoungst various eastern european ethnicities...

pss: I'm told that in Jewish thought, Jewishness comes through the mother, which justifies the extreme prejudice I've experienced in associating with female Jews (from male jews), whilst it is totally acceptable (within my circles) for a Jewish male to union with a gentile female...

[Tanakh Keeper]

Why are you getting into Jewish identification? It is irrelevant to this thread.

[One Bad Pig]

I apologize.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Why are you getting into Jewish identification? It is irrelevant to this thread.

Next time someone goes off topic, you should throw a dradel at their face.

[apostoli]

Why are you getting into Jewish identification? It is irrelevant to this thread.

I have no idea to whom you are adressing your question but if it is to me, my comments are in direct answer to this thread...Jewish identification (the Maccabees) is core to the Jewish festive season (Hanukkah)...