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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      I think it has become a pejoritive in Mormonism the way anti-Mormon has. To me, it's a nice neat way for Mormons to group a collection of people to hurl elephants at.
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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      EVANS - is a snarky term. It is used largely in a derogatory way. It would be similar to saying someone is a "Tard" if they were a retard. That's my opinion on how I've heard it used. So there nananananna.

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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      I think it has become a pejoritive in Mormonism the way anti-Mormon has. To me, it's a nice neat way for Mormons to group a collection of people to hurl elephants at.
      So, that's like .. kinda.. sorta... MOCKING?!?!?!?!?!
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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      I think it has become a pejoritive in Mormonism the way anti-Mormon has.
      I am glad you said "I think..." because I have seen people use it merely a counterpart to "Mormons" -- a nickname that is neutral unless the individual puts in in a pejorative context. Just like the term "Jews" can be non-pejorative or a term of contempt depending on the biases of the individual.

      To me, it's a nice neat way for Mormons to group a collection of people to hurl elephants at.
      ---There are people who use "Evans" as a shortened form of "Evangelical, Reformation-derived Christians" and mean nothing more than that by it. Just like there are people who use "Mormons" as a shortened form of "Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" and mean no insult by the nickname.
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      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      When we want to mock the Mormons we leave out the middle "M"

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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      When we want to mock the Mormons we leave out the middle "M"
      It doesn't make sense you call them "Ormons".

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      Quote Originally posted by digits View Post
      It doesn't make sense you call them "Ormons".
      oh that middle?

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      Looks like the OP's question has been answered. Excellent.
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      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Looks like the OP's question has been answered. Excellent.
      You mean this one?

      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Where are you getting your information about what (for a lack of better qualifier) orthodox Christianity holds as "required beliefs"?
      Could you please point me to your answer? I missed it.
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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      NO. The question "Why Evans"? "

      I explained the reasoning behind shortening the longer set of words down to just "Evans." Question answered.
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
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      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      NO. The question "Why Evans"? "

      I explained the reasoning behind shortening the longer set of words down to just "Evans." Question answered.
      Yes, that you answered. How bout the one I pointed to?

      Where are you getting your information about what (for a lack of better qualifier) orthodox Christianity holds as "required beliefs"?
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      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Yes, that you answered. How bout the one I pointed to?
      Is the one you pointed to on-topic in this thread?

      Where are you getting your information about what (for a lack of better qualifier) orthodox Christianity holds as "required beliefs"?
      ---From 22 years of being told, by people claiming to fall within orthodox Christianity, about those beliefs and being told that I don't meet their requirements.

      Are you saying there is an official, concrete, authoritative list that states the required beliefs for becoming a Christian? Where is this list?
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
      religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently,
      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Is the one you pointed to on-topic in this thread?
      Well, that depends on your definition of "on-topic in this thread". Since it was actually part of the OP, and I, as thread starter, was the one who asked it, then, IMO, yes, it's "on-topic in this thread".

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      On what do you base your apparent assumption that belief in a global flood and young earth creationism are necessary components of my "branch of Christendom"? I checked FairMormon for the Mormon "position" on these issues (the global flood, in particular) and, amazingly, I'm pretty much in agreement with what is posted there.
      Originally posted by nrajeff
      ---From 22 years of being told, by people claiming to fall within orthodox Christianity, about those beliefs and being told that I don't meet their requirements. Are you saying there is an official, concrete, authoritative list that states the required beliefs for becoming a Christian? Where is this list?
      Once again, you get this backwards --- It's not that there has to be an "official, concrete, authorative list" to know that certain things are NOT required by orthodoxy. We have had a number of reponses from orthodoxy as represented by Tweb posters, and I don't remember ANY of them claiming or believing that a global flood or YEC is REQUIRED for Salvation, or for inclusion in the orthodox umbrella.

      Have orthodox people actually told you that the REASON you don't meet their requirments is BECAUSE you don't believe in a global flood and/or YEC? And, if so, you just took their word for it without checking it out?

      And, please note, you were referring to "my branch of Christendom", bolding mine....

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      And if someone is considering joining your branch of Christendom, would it scare them off if you told them up front, right at the beginning "Many experts think our belief in a worldwide flood (with one family saving themselves and all animal life from God's holocaust in a big boat) to be lifted from more ancient fables than the Bible" ? And if you also told them "Many experts think our belief that God created Planet Earth and the whole rest of the universe less than a million years ago to be pure nonsense" would it tend to dissuade them from continuing down the path to Evangelical-hood?
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      Re: For Jeff -- Why "EVANS"?

      Did you ever answer those 2 questions?
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
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      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Yes.
      2 Tim 2:1-2

      Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


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