$15/hr Min Wage - We told you so

[Sparko]

Seattle has had the $15/hr minimum wage for a while now. The net result? Workers are taking home an average of $125/month LESS than before. Why? Because businesses have cut their hours to maintain profitability.

A New Study Has Some Bad News for Backers of a Minimum Wage Hike
Katie Reilly
Jun 26, 2017

Seattle's move a few years ago to gradually increase the local minimum wage to $15 an hour has caused low-wage workers to lose money due to reduced working hours, according to a new study.

The study by researchers at the University of Washington found that earnings for low-wage employees fell by an average of $125 per month in 2016 because the ordinance caused a 9% decrease in the number of hours worked. Meanwhile, hourly wages for low-wage jobs increased by about 3%, according to the study. The study was commissioned by the city itself and released Monday.
http://fortune.com/2017/06/26/seattl...-policy-study/

[Starlight]

There was a methodologically-better study published last week on the subject from the University of Berkeley. It found only positive results from the Seattle minimum wage increases.

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[Bill the Cat]

There was a methodologically-better study published last week on the subject from the University of Berkeley. It found only positive results from the Seattle minimum wage increases.

Sorry Star, but the Berkley study only included restaurant workers. There are a number of industries besides food that pay some workers minimum wage, and the Washington study included them. So, while it may be a positive for some food service workers, it is a negative for other industries that don't respond as well to general economy booms. And acting like these 2 reports are contradictory is sloppy.

[tabibito]

Sorry Star, but the Berkley study only included restaurant workers. There are a number of industries besides food that pay some workers minimum wage, and the Washington study included them. So, while it may be a positive for some food service workers, it is a negative for other industries that don't respond as well to general economy booms. And acting like these 2 reports are contradictory is sloppy.

But another study about Seattle's minimum wage, released last week, reached different a conclusion

That's from the same article cited in the OP. And that article itself claims that the results are contradictory. With the rider that neither study has yet been peer reviewed.

[Sparko]

Star, your source is just an opinion piece that admits it doesn't even have the data to work with, so I think that it is nothing but a politically motivated hit piece.


The Washington Study looked at low-wage workers from all segments of the economy while the Berkley study only looked at low-wage restaurant workers. The Washington study also had access to the number of hours worked by low wage workers where the Berkley study did not.

[Bill the Cat]

That's from the same article cited in the OP. And that article itself claims that the results are contradictory. With the rider that neither study has yet been peer reviewed.

Source: http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/26/news/seattle-minimum-wage-15/index.html

The two studies come to different conclusions, but don't necessarily contradict one another.

The study from Washington looks at low-wage workers in Seattle across all segments of the economy, while the Berkeley report looks only at Seattle's low-wage restaurant employees

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[Meh Gerbil]

It should be legal to hunt minimum wage workers for sport.

[tabibito]

It should be legal to hunt minimum wage workers for sport.

There is a story that a Russian Czar did that in England once. Entirely understandable, given that he didn't know the meaning of "pheasant"

[Meh Gerbil]

There is a story that a Russian Czar did that in England once. Entirely understandable, given that he didn't know the meaning of "pheasant"

I didn't expect this from you.

+1 for surprise
+1 for clever

You've won the internet for today.

[rogue06]

It should be legal to hunt minimum wage workers for sport.

It IS legal to hunt gerbils for sport.

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[Sparko]

It should be legal to hunt minimum wage workers for sport.

it isn't?

[Mountain Man]

it isn't?

It is, but you only get paid minimum wage to do it.

[Sparko]

It is, but you only get paid minimum wage to do it.

They ARE hunted, by employers. "Hey guess what? we are going to pay you $15/hour!!!" then "Psych!! we are only going to give you 5 hours a week!"

[RumTumTugger]

Star, your source is just an opinion piece that admits it doesn't even have the data to work with, so I think that it is nothing but a politically motivated hit piece.


The Washington Study looked at low-wage workers from all segments of the economy while the Berkley study only looked at low-wage restaurant workers. The Washington study also had access to the number of hours worked by low wage workers where the Berkley study did not.

Sparko you know a close minded Anti Intelletual like Starlight can't be bothered to look at the methodology used in studies of this sort. He'd rather continue looking like a lazy fool.

[Cow Poke]

There is a story that a Russian Czar did that in England once. Entirely understandable, given that he didn't know the meaning of "pheasant"

and... GROAN!