When cancer eats the "believing centre" of the brain?

[splat]

If a cancer eats the "believing centre" of the brain and the person stops believing in God
then how does this work with the doctrine of "persevering to the end"?
Do they go "straight to hell, do not pass Go,
do not collect $200?"

Your thoughts?

Splat

[theblueprint_Ni]

If a cancer eats the "believing centre" of the brain and the person stops believing in God
then how does this work with the doctrine of "persevering to the end"?
Do they go "straight to hell, do not pass Go,
do not collect $200?"

Your thoughts?

Splat

You sure there is such a thing? I suppose that person would probably go mad because they wouldn't believe in reality; not what they see, hear, taste, touch, or smell, or even their own existence. We wouldn't understand them at all, there would be a complete disconnect. They would be something like a very sick or severely mentally handicap person. You can't really hold them to the same standard. The idea is too abstract and contains a wide range of variables.

[Raphael]

I would add to what blueprint_NI said to point out that God's Grace is more than sufficient to cover such a situation.

[Phat8594]

If a cancer eats the "believing centre" of the brain and the person stops believing in God
then how does this work with the doctrine of "persevering to the end"?
Do they go "straight to hell, do not pass Go,
do not collect $200?"

Your thoughts?

Splat

I agree with Blue that the idea is quite abstract, and until it happens it remains as such. What are the odds that cancer would only destroy the "believing center" of the brain of a believer?

However, I have thought about Alzheimers before.....But with that I would like to think that God is big enough to understand the complexities of this life. God is perfectly just, and He is also loving, and for that I am thankful.

[DesertBerean]

I agree there's no real answer.

I saw the patriarch of a family fade away from Alzheimers, yet he appeared never forgot his Christian roots. During services our preachers tried not to say the word "stand" because this man would stand up as for altar call, even days before he went home to the Lord.

[David Hayward]

Welcome to TWEB, splat.

What "believing centre" would that be? There's some very badly designed research out there, especially research which relies on brain scans, during which statistical means are used to pick out tiny effects from random noise.

There is an anecdote of a woman, devout all her life, who went to her vicar because she was devoloping Alzheimer's, and she was concerned she would become neglectful and forgetful. The vicar reassured her that though she might forget God, God would not forget her.

David

[eudyptes]

While we were sinners...He died for us.....don't think He'd cast us away because we no longer have capacity.

Then there's that verse about nothing being able to take us away.....

[Chappie]

I agree there's no real answer.

I saw the patriarch of a family fade away from Alzheimers, yet he appeared never forgot his Christian roots. During services our preachers tried not to say the word "stand" because this man would stand up as for altar call, even days before he went home to the Lord.

Alzheimer’s, cancer, nuttiness and all other mental diseases are the product of this physical realm that we live in. They affect cognizance and communicative abilities indigenous to the physical realm that we live in. These impediments cannot touch our spirits.

John 4:24
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Communicating with God is a spiritual thing, not a physical thing… They cannot communicate with us, we cannot communicate with them, but no schism exists between them (US) and God…

[rhutchin]

There is an anecdote of a woman, devout all her life, who went to her vicar because she was developing Alzheimer's, and she was concerned she would become neglectful and forgetful. The vicar reassured her that though she might forget God, God would not forget her.

Which is why we want God in charge of salvation and not ourselves. Put man in charge of salvation and he screws it up.

[ThePuppyTurtle]

If a cancer eats the "believing centre" of the brain and the person stops believing in God
then how does this work with the doctrine of "persevering to the end"?
Do they go "straight to hell, do not pass Go,
do not collect $200?"

Your thoughts?

Splat

I would say in that case if it is literally impossible through no fault of his own he is in the clear. Especially if he believed before.

[David Hayward]

There's some very badly designed research out there, especially research which relies on brain scans, during which statistical means are used to pick out tiny effects from random noise.

Here's a link to an article which points out some problems.

See also this series of posts by statistician WM Briggs. He is there singling out a particularly inept bit of research, but covers fMRI brain scan research in general.

WM Briggs never tires of pointing out that amongst scientists, even experts in their fields, there's an awful lot of: apparent inability to design for meaningful statistical results; misunderstanding of statistical results; misrepresenting of statistical results, and fatuous conclusions.

There's also nonsense talked about a gene for belief.

David

[Pilgrim]

God is perfectly just, and He is also loving, and for that I am thankful.

And more than this, God is good. For this I am thankful.