March 2012 Screwballs

[Raphael]

Harold Camping has issued an apology for his doomsday teachings.

He has stated it was sinful of him to have said that the Bible teaches those dates. That Family Radio has no interest anymore in trying to come up with dates, and encourages people to even more fervently search the scriptures, not for dates, but to be more faithful in our understanding

Family Radio

We realize that many people are hoping they will know the date of Christ's return. In fact for a time Family Radio fell into that kind of thinking. But we now realize that those people who were calling our attention to the Bible's statement that "of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36 & Mark 13:32), were right in their understanding of those verses and Family Radio was wrong. Whether God will ever give us any indication of the date of His return is hidden in God's divine plan.

We were even so bold as to insist that the Bible guaranteed that Christ would return on May 21 and that the true believers would be raptured. Yet this incorrect and sinful statement allowed God to get the attention of a great many people who otherwise would not have paid attention. Even as God used sinful Balaam to accomplish His purposes, so He used our sin to accomplish His purpose of making the whole world acquainted with the Bible. However, even so, that does not excuse us. We tremble before God as we humbly ask Him for forgiveness for making that sinful statement. We are so thankful that God is so loving that He will forgive even this sin.

© source where applicable

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ha...atement-71008/

h/t Turretinfan

[Andius]

Mmmhhh, it brought attention alright, not exactly the good kind of attention though.

But at least it's a start in recognizing they played foul ball on this ministry manuever.

[ApologiaPhoenix]

There was an 89?????






Truth be known, with all the crazy stuff I got into, and all the trouble I managed to bring to myself, I never once took drugs or smoked dope and --- I quit drinking when I turned old enough to start.

Did that include the mistake Lizard made of reading Hal Lindsey when he should have been smoking pot instead?

[Teluog]

Harold Camping has issued an apology for his doomsday teachings.

Now if only Tassman and Co. could likewise think and do the same, but in my prediction the world will end first.

[Manwë Súlimo]

Harold Camping has issued an apology for his doomsday teachings.

He has stated it was sinful of him to have said that the Bible teaches those dates. That Family Radio has no interest anymore in trying to come up with dates, and encourages people to even more fervently search the scriptures, not for dates, but to be more faithful in our understanding

Family Radio

We realize that many people are hoping they will know the date of Christ's return. In fact for a time Family Radio fell into that kind of thinking. But we now realize that those people who were calling our attention to the Bible's statement that "of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36 & Mark 13:32), were right in their understanding of those verses and Family Radio was wrong. Whether God will ever give us any indication of the date of His return is hidden in God's divine plan.

We were even so bold as to insist that the Bible guaranteed that Christ would return on May 21 and that the true believers would be raptured. Yet this incorrect and sinful statement allowed God to get the attention of a great many people who otherwise would not have paid attention. Even as God used sinful Balaam to accomplish His purposes, so He used our sin to accomplish His purpose of making the whole world acquainted with the Bible. However, even so, that does not excuse us. We tremble before God as we humbly ask Him for forgiveness for making that sinful statement. We are so thankful that God is so loving that He will forgive even this sin.

© source where applicable

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ha...atement-71008/

h/t Turretinfan

Good for him. Yet these two sections should have been left out:

Yes, we humbly acknowledge we were wrong about the timing; yet though we were wrong God is still using the May 21 warning in a very mighty way. In the months following May 21 the Bible has, in some ways, come out from under the shadows and is now being discussed by all kinds of people who never before paid any attention to the Bible. We learn about this, for example, by the recent National Geographic articles concerning the King James Bible and the Apostles. Reading about and even discussing about the Bible can never be a bad thing, even if the Bible's authenticity is questioned or ridiculed. The world's attention has been called to the Bible.

Even as God used sinful Balaam to accomplish His purposes, so He used our sin to accomplish His purpose of making the whole world acquainted with the Bible.

You'd be hard pressed to see ANY good come from the attention brought to Camping and Christianity. Stop trying to even remotely justify your actions - you've shamed us all.

[lilpixieofterror]

Wow if I didn't know any better I would say that you have been to the same site I was posting on. vbv's ears must be on fire by now. He once said that "There was NO scientific advances until the 17th century."

Try telling him that the modern theory of optics, comes from the 14th century and tell him that Robert Grosseteste (A Bishop, that lived in the 12-13th century) made many scientific advances and some say he was the father of scientific thought in Europe and watch his head explode.

[lilpixieofterror]

Yeah apparently only secular atheists can do any science of any kind. He also thinks that Issac Newton couldn't have been "stupid" enough to be a Christian ,or that he was only saying those things to be "politically correct".

Newton wrote more on theology then he wrote on science.

I tried to show him how there were no real "Dark Ages" ,and that some progress was made during that time ,but he wasn't buying it. I said that modern science as we know it was a product of Biblical presuppositions ,like that there was a God of order ,and that we being made in His image are capable of understanding His creation. He decided to refute a strawman of "The Bible the source of all scientific knowledge". I never said anything like that ,but he seemed to think I did. He also thinks that the only reason science exists now is because of the Greeks and Romans.

He's an idiot because the Greeks and Romans were scientifically stagnate and many have aruged that their stalling of scientific progress is what allowed their enemies to catch up to them and eventually conquer them. Plus, I thought Robert Grosseteste and Roger Bacon were Christians. Perhaps you should stop wasting your time debating such a moron.

[Sparko]

Harold Camping has issued an apology for his doomsday teachings.

He has stated it was sinful of him to have said that the Bible teaches those dates. That Family Radio has no interest anymore in trying to come up with dates, and encourages people to even more fervently search the scriptures, not for dates, but to be more faithful in our understanding

Family Radio

We realize that many people are hoping they will know the date of Christ's return. In fact for a time Family Radio fell into that kind of thinking. But we now realize that those people who were calling our attention to the Bible's statement that "of that day and hour knoweth no man" (Matthew 24:36 & Mark 13:32), were right in their understanding of those verses and Family Radio was wrong. Whether God will ever give us any indication of the date of His return is hidden in God's divine plan.

We were even so bold as to insist that the Bible guaranteed that Christ would return on May 21 and that the true believers would be raptured. Yet this incorrect and sinful statement allowed God to get the attention of a great many people who otherwise would not have paid attention. Even as God used sinful Balaam to accomplish His purposes, so He used our sin to accomplish His purpose of making the whole world acquainted with the Bible. However, even so, that does not excuse us. We tremble before God as we humbly ask Him for forgiveness for making that sinful statement. We are so thankful that God is so loving that He will forgive even this sin.

© source where applicable

http://www.christianpost.com/news/ha...atement-71008/

h/t Turretinfan

Now if he would start repaying all those millions to help the people who sold their property and gave him their proceeds to help spread his sin, then he will be on the right path.

[jpholding]

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...51#post3375851

Another dum dum bangs their head on TIF. Sample of their stupidity:

. For instance, he considers Jesus' Jewishness as a liability in selling his message: that's just not true. Judaism fascinated the Romans, on and off and in various socio-economic quarters, just as Orientalism fascinated the Brits of the late Victorian Age, or as Native American culture fascinated the intellectuals of the 1970's: these things _do_ come and go as fads, and Judaism had some fruitful contributions to the intellectual life of the Romans as a kind of naughty pleasure

Unfortunately, Fishbreath here is confusing Judaism as a religion with Judaism as a racial identity. The former is what fascinated Romans. The latter is what they were bigoted against, and what the TIF point is based on.

With critics this stupid, I ought to put out more books.

[jpholding]

From my little bro:

Bob Morris, Indiana Lawmaker, Apologizes For Girl Scouts Comments

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1299236.html

[Cerebrum123]

Newton wrote more on theology then he wrote on science.



He's an idiot because the Greeks and Romans were scientifically stagnate and many have aruged that their stalling of scientific progress is what allowed their enemies to catch up to them and eventually conquer them. Plus, I thought Robert Grosseteste and Roger Bacon were Christians. Perhaps you should stop wasting your time debating such a moron.

I have taken a break from debating him ,but there is a problem if I ever go back over there. This guy ,and the guy who thinks Adam and Cain are the same person ,are respected over there for their ability to debate Islam.
Also I DID show him various inventions of earlier periods AND showed him how science was stagnant in Greece and Rome. I told him about the blast furnace specifically (along with a few other things mentioned by Rodney Stark in "The Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-hunts and the End of Slavery") ,but he laughed it off ,and joked about me claiming next that electricity was invented in the 13th century. To that I just showed him that there is an ancient artifact known as the "Baghdad Battery" ,that might have been used to produce an electric current. I was very careful in saying that it is still speculation about the electric current ,but it's possible.
His response to Isaac Newton writing more about theology than science ,was that I was lying ,then he switched over to that Isaac Newton was afraid of being persecuted by the Church and HAD to say and write those things.

[lilpixieofterror]

I have taken a break from debating him ,but there is a problem if I ever go back over there. This guy ,and the guy who thinks Adam and Cain are the same person ,are respected over there for their ability to debate Islam.
Also I DID show him various inventions of earlier periods AND showed him how science was stagnant in Greece and Rome. I told him about the blast furnace specifically (along with a few other things mentioned by Rodney Stark in "The Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-hunts and the End of Slavery") ,but he laughed it off ,and joked about me claiming next that electricity was invented in the 13th century. To that I just showed him that there is an ancient artifact known as the "Baghdad Battery" ,that might have been used to produce an electric current. I was very careful in saying that it is still speculation about the electric current ,but it's possible.
His response to Isaac Newton writing more about theology than science ,was that I was lying ,then he switched over to that Isaac Newton was afraid of being persecuted by the Church and HAD to say and write those things.

Which is kind of funny and full of many errors, just three I can think of really fast:

1. Electricity was never invented, it was discovered.
2. Wikipedia actually would confirm you are correct in all of these cases and does actually refute the claims he is making
3. If Newton was afraid of being persecuted by the church, why did he write religious works that were quite unorthodox? Among his religious works, he wrote a work about refuting the trinity (a doctrine held by most Christians of the 17th century).

I would suggest you just don't waste your time with that kind of moron.

[Cerebrum123]

Which is kind of funny and full of many errors, just three I can think of really fast:

1. Electricity was never invented, it was discovered.
2. Wikipedia actually would confirm you are correct in all of these cases and does actually refute the claims he is making
3. If Newton was afraid of being persecuted by the church, why did he write religious works that were quite unorthodox? Among his religious works, he wrote a work about refuting the trinity (a doctrine held by most Christians of the 17th century).

I would suggest you just don't waste your time with that kind of moron.

I WOULD ignore him ,and his nonsense ,but like I said he's respected over there for his other arguments ,and the people there look up to him. He's not as respected as the Duh guy ,but they both have respect that is almost like J.P. is respected here. The main problem being that when it comes to Islam ,they have done their homework ,and are capable of making rational arguments against Muslims who try to defend some rather disturbing stuff(Mohammed's "marriage" to Aisha for example ,for those of you don't know who she is ,she was a six year old little girl ,and he "consummated" that marriage when she was 9 ,and he was 52).
If I don't correct the misinformation (I would say lie ,but these guys are genuinely believing the garbage they put out ,and so I don't think it qualifies) ,then the other posters are going to think that these things are true.

[ukchristian28]

Screwball to Youtube for the new channel layout which they are forcing on everyone. My channel was switched over today. It's looks terrible but the most annoying thing so far for me are the channel comments. Here are the issues with them.

1. They are hidden. Someone visiting your page has to click two links to get to them whereas before everything was all of one page.

2. At the moment there is no "Delete" function. There is no way to delete unwanted comments at the moment. Fortunately my channel comments are currently set to "approval only" so the disgusting remark some troll left me a little while ago is not visible to the public. Which brings me to the next silly thing.

3. There is a function that allows you to approve a comment, but there is no "Deny" option. So I have I see the disgusting comment the troll left every time I view my comments page.

4. They have removed the setting I preferred for my main page. You used to be able to set it so comments from non-friends had to be approved, but comments from friends didn't have to be. Now, you either have to disable comments completely, set them to approval only for everyone, or allow all comments without approval.

Who designed all this? A chimp with Alzheimer's

[fm93]

Screwball to Youtube for the new channel layout which they are forcing on everyone. My channel was switched over today. It's looks terrible but the most annoying thing so far for me are the channel comments. Here are the issues with them.

1. They are hidden. Someone visiting your page has to click two links to get to them whereas before everything was all of one page.

Speaking of which, how exactly do you get to them if you're visiting someone else's page?