SarahB and Psalm 137:8-9

[Otter]

Otter,

I'm a full time university student, psychology, and have less time to post than I used to when i was Navy or unemployed. Ive gone on huge back and forths with lpot before and she doesnt get much more intellectually challenging than now.

I could point you at my old op's if you wanna, i dunno, vet my skillz or w/e

No, that's okay. You seem fine. ;)

[Kane]

Translation: "WAAA!!! I can't refute it, so I'm going to assert it is 'vague' to avoid having to answer it."

Thus Jaecp plays his usual game of cheer leader, without addressing anything brought up. How typical... perhaps you should go and educate yourself upon the history of the Bible and Crusades before you say stupid remarks? I would think somebody invading my allies and attacking my nation might be a good reason to go to war with them. Do you agree or would you just surrender, without a fight? It always amazes me that people simply ignore the political and historical climate and pretend as though, "DUH! It's all religion's fault!" without ever using a history book. When you're done whining, come back and try to refute anything I said. I know you can't.

Whine, nag, moan, complain.

You enjoy insulting people. It appeals to your militaristic persona. It's how you lob grenades without actually blowing people up. And then when those people recover from the unnecessary and unwelcome stunning, you tell them it's their fault because they didn't answer a question you may or may not have posed.

It's called gaslighting, and you're really good at it. But for the rest of us with a bit more mental endurance, or perhaps a tendency to masochism, we see it for what it is. You're not getting away with anything. You're just being tolerated. Wonderful to have such a minimalistic opportunity to interact with others, isn't it?

[Adrift]

Whine, nag, moan, complain.

You enjoy insulting people. It appeals to your militaristic persona. It's how you lob grenades without actually blowing people up. And then when those people recover from the unnecessary and unwelcome stunning, you tell them it's their fault because they didn't answer a question you may or may not have posed.

It's called gaslighting, and you're really good at it. But for the rest of us with a bit more mental endurance, or perhaps a tendency to masochism, we see it for what it is. You're not getting away with anything. You're just being tolerated. Wonderful to have such a minimalistic opportunity to interact with others, isn't it?

An easier way around this is ignoring posters you find unhelpful in a conversation. I mean, you realize if you stop replying to lilpixie you'll probably hear less from her, right? To be completely honest even I don't read the large majority of her posts, or replies to her posts, because when you all get into it with her I know that its just going to be walls of text made up mostly of repetitious points and name calling back and forth. There's just not a whole lot of substance in those types of posts. So why not just ignore the people you think are roadblocks to fruitful conversation and carry on with those who look like they actually want to engage the topics? I mean, there's no rule that says you have to respond to every post.

[Kane]

An easier way around this is ignoring posters you find unhelpful in a conversation. I mean, you realize if you stop replying to lilpixie you'll probably hear less from her, right? To be completely honest even I don't read the large majority of her posts, or replies to her posts, because when you all get into it with her I know that its just going to be walls of text made up mostly of repetitious points and name calling back and forth. There's just not a whole lot of substance in those types of posts. So why not just ignore the people you think are roadblocks to fruitful conversation and carry on with those who look like they actually want to engage the topics? I mean, there's no rule that says you have to respond to every post.

Thank you, Adrift. I accept your gentle reminder of a point I lose sight of too easily when I start feeling irritable. I will be using your advice and ignoring LPoT.

[Otter]

An easier way around this is ignoring posters you find unhelpful in a conversation. I mean, you realize if you stop replying to lilpixie you'll probably hear less from her, right? To be completely honest even I don't read the large majority of her posts, or replies to her posts, because when you all get into it with her I know that its just going to be walls of text made up mostly of repetitious points and name calling back and forth. There's just not a whole lot of substance in those types of posts. So why not just ignore the people you think are roadblocks to fruitful conversation and carry on with those who look like they actually want to engage the topics? I mean, there's no rule that says you have to respond to every post.

Sage.

[Jaecp]

Please don't take this the wrong way, Adrift, but I'd rather we had Christians willing to tell her to stop being a crass, blemish instead of suggesting that the skeptics not pick at an open sore.

[Whag]

Please don't take this the wrong way, Adrift, but I'd rather we had Christians willing to tell her to stop being a crass, blemish instead of suggesting that the skeptics not pick at an open sore.

The problem with requesting this is you're asking the mature Christians to police or systematically rebuke the immature ones. That might be reasonable to ask in a church setting, but is it reasonable to ask here? The ignore feature is just an effective tool, especially when it becomes obvious to the offending parties that members increasingly aren't even replying to their posts.

Just my 2 cents.

[Jaecp]

Unless they changed something recently, you can't ignore moderators.

And, you know what, for someone who is a long time poster I do actually think that that should happen. The level of discourse here is lower than it could be and when a moderator is one of the ones actively engaged in it then it helps to set the tone lower than it otherwise would be.

[Whag]

Unless they changed something recently, you can't ignore moderators.

And, you know what, for someone who is a long time poster I do actually think that that should happen. The level of discourse here is lower than it could be and when a moderator is one of the ones actively engaged in it then it helps to set the tone lower than it otherwise would be.

Good point. I didn't know she was a moderator. I agree that a moderator should be admonished to argue better!

[lilpixieofterror]

Translation: Jaecp doesn't know anything! You're STUPID. You can't answer my brilliant points! You don't know anything!

(I'm glad I met LPOT. All these years I spent doing real scholarship.... they were wasted!)

Awe, poor Otter and Jaecp, can't answer the arguments, so just whine and rant.

[lilpixieofterror]

The thing is, however, that I actually haven't seen Jaecp ever answer one of LPoT's points. And this sounds insulting, but Jaecp doesn't give me the impression that he actually does know anything relevant to the commonly debated issues here. I understand that you may feel that LPoT's style is annoying or insulting or whatever, but ultimately, she usually tends to be right about her opponents. I haven't seen many opponents actually try to deal with the arguments at all, other than whine that she's insulting them.

That's Jaecp and the funny thing is that he and Otter are little hypocrites because they want to insult me, while of course, whining about being insulted themselves. Guess only they are allowed to insult people, but nobody else is.

[lilpixieofterror]

Otter,

I'm a full time university student, psychology, and have less time to post than I used to when i was Navy or unemployed. Ive gone on huge back and forths with lpot before and she doesnt get much more intellectually challenging than now.

I could point you at my old op's if you wanna, i dunno, vet my skillz or w/e

NO Jaecp, I have answered your arguments and you spent your time whining and crying. It is also funny to watch you whine about insults, while dishing them out yourself. I guess only you're allowed to insult people, but nobody else is eh?

[lilpixieofterror]

The problem with requesting this is you're asking the mature Christians to police or systematically rebuke the immature ones. That might be reasonable to ask in a church setting, but is it reasonable to ask here? The ignore feature is just an effective tool, especially when it becomes obvious to the offending parties that members increasingly aren't even replying to their posts.

Just my 2 cents.

Please explain why insulting people who ignore points is 'immature'. I've always seen this assertion, but nobody has been able to back it.

[lilpixieofterror]

Unless they changed something recently, you can't ignore moderators.

And, you know what, for someone who is a long time poster I do actually think that that should happen. The level of discourse here is lower than it could be and when a moderator is one of the ones actively engaged in it then it helps to set the tone lower than it otherwise would be.

Is that what you tell yourself Jaecp to help you get over the fact you can't answer arguments against your position? I notice that neither you nor Otter have dealt with my arguments dealing with the crusades and instead have been reduced to whining and not dealing with arguments. Besides, many of the higher mods have insulted people more then me. You should go read some of the post by Dee Dee, Bill The Cat, Cow Poke, And APNick, they have insulted people too, but I guess you don't actually read what others say, eh Jaecp? Now come back when you can deal with the arguments against your positions.

[lilpixieofterror]

An easier way around this is ignoring posters you find unhelpful in a conversation. I mean, you realize if you stop replying to lilpixie you'll probably hear less from her, right? To be completely honest even I don't read the large majority of her posts, or replies to her posts, because when you all get into it with her I know that its just going to be walls of text made up mostly of repetitious points and name calling back and forth. There's just not a whole lot of substance in those types of posts. So why not just ignore the people you think are roadblocks to fruitful conversation and carry on with those who look like they actually want to engage the topics? I mean, there's no rule that says you have to respond to every post.

Yet, nobodd ever really deals with the points, but spends their days whining about them.... quite revealing that nobody has yet to answer a single point I made, but spend post after post after post, whining and crying about a few insults.